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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: cessnas on March 17, 2019, 12:05:16 PM



Title: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: cessnas on March 17, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
Hey
Got some 875cc deka (i know the spray pattern sucks) injectors installed along with a 4bar FPR. So now they're tuned to 960cc.
Tuned KRKTE and TVUB with the dynamic KRKTE and TVUB calc and the car now drives fine.
The problem is that when i go to start the car in the morning it dies instantly, like it's over fueling. If i start the car again it runs after a tiny bit long cranking.
Also it misfires on idle but only when its cold? So i thought the warm-up enrichment was screwing with me but the AFR is almost perfect.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated


Title: Re: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: gman86 on March 17, 2019, 07:46:51 PM
Hey
Got some 875cc deka (i know the spray pattern sucks) injectors installed along with a 4bar FPR. So now they're tuned to 960cc.
Tuned KRKTE and TVUB with the dynamic KRKTE and TVUB calc and the car now drives fine.
The problem is that when i go to start the car in the morning it dies instantly, like it's over fueling. If i start the car again it runs after a tiny bit long cranking.
Also it misfires on idle but only when its cold? So i thought the warm-up enrichment was screwing with me but the AFR is almost perfect.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Populate TVUB based on injector datasheet.


Title: Re: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: cessnas on March 18, 2019, 01:02:24 AM
Isnt TVUB Fuel pressure dependent? Can only find the datasheet with the injectors running at 3 BAR


Title: Re: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: prj on March 18, 2019, 01:16:31 AM
If you know the spraypattern sucks, then why are you wondering that you have misfire?
It's normal for these to misfire, and the more miles you put on them the more they're going to misfire.

These injectors are not meant to be used on a small engine, they don't work properly below anything under 1.5ms.


Title: Re: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: cessnas on March 18, 2019, 02:47:53 AM
If you know the spraypattern sucks, then why are you wondering that you have misfire?
It's normal for these to misfire, and the more miles you put on them the more they're going to misfire.

These injectors are not meant to be used on a small engine, they don't work properly below anything under 1.5ms.

Yeah, and it started misfiring even when the engine is hot too now. So looks like i'll just have to live with it.

Dont know why it dies when i start it up in the morning though, not a big issue either


Title: Re: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: dal on March 18, 2019, 04:30:03 AM
Why you are running 4bar FPR? With 3bar, you benefit from TVUB data already exists based on 3bar, and you will have slightly bigger injection time, with a more stable injected mass from the injectors.


Title: Re: Idle misfire when cold
Post by: cessnas on March 18, 2019, 04:44:55 AM
Why you are running 4bar FPR? With 3bar, you benefit from TVUB data already exists based on 3bar, and you will have slightly bigger injection time, with a more stable injected mass from the injectors.

I want to run an 3 BAR FPR but i dont have one. The A4 B5 comes stock with 4 bar. Yes i know i can order one but in 2 weeks i'll be gone for a year and i want the car to run ish properly before then