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ECU Files => ECU Definition Files => Topic started by: cam on July 18, 2011, 04:37:11 PM



Title: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 18, 2011, 04:37:11 PM
Hi, i bought this amazing car and need map pack for ecu or is better to change to another sw?

Thanks all for answers :)


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 18, 2011, 05:43:21 PM
Hi,

Would you be so kind, to use the Nefmoto software and with the aid of a cheap
vagcom-dongle, read-out your original software and post it up over here ?

It is also possible to do it over obd via a kwp2000plus interface. If you need
directions/software, give me a shout.

This all, to see which definitionfile will come close to your original software that now
is in your ecu.

I just had a look in etka, and etka doesn't list your ecu for your S3. Only the TT-R.
So this may be a small hint that something happened to the car....

Thanks,

PvL


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 18, 2011, 06:08:33 PM
Hi, original file here ...

I will look at etka tomorrow, thank you for hint :)


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 18, 2011, 06:34:21 PM
Hi,

Eemmmm  archive-date from file 1996 ...   Please read-out the file of your ecu ;)

I took a look in my TT archive, and i have 1 version of the AE ecu.  version 0001.

So would like to know what softwareversion you have in yours.

PvL


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 18, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
I will read out tomorrow, identification i was read while buy process and file from net ... I am impatient to tomorrow, you know ... :)


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 18, 2011, 11:53:22 PM
Don't worry ;)  We are very patiënt over here (most forum-members are).

I got also a extra question. Your ecu might be they swapped for another one,
or transformed it to another software. To check this, you can look on the
sticker of the ecu, what ecu you really have. This might be a bit of a hastle,
but it lives under the plastic caps that cover the window-wipers in front of the
car. To access it, you need to undo the window wipers and the plastic covers.
slide the ecu a bit forward, and you should be able to see what the sticker says.

Hope to hear about the outcome,

PvL


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 19, 2011, 01:33:18 AM
Hi, file from car here, but not stock :(


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: TTQS on July 19, 2011, 05:00:36 AM
Hi, i bought this amazing car and need map pack for ecu or is better to change to another sw?

Hi Cam. Are you based in the U.K. by any chance? If so, don't try to flash the ECU yourself, save up a few hundred pounds and go for a commercial remap. That is probably tantamount to a heretical statement on an amateur tuning website, but here are my recommendations:

You could try Vagcheck in Staines, Middlesex. Their remaps are done by a professional calibrator and both the guys that run it are very knowledgeable on diagnostics and custom remapping. Failing that, AMD Tuning in Essex are also highly regarded as are Awesome GTi in Manchester (Revo Technik agents) and Star Performance in Kirkcaldy, Scotland who use OCT in Germany for their remaps.

Doug


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 19, 2011, 05:10:06 AM
Doug,

I think 'cam' is based in czechaslovakia...  so that will be a bit
out of his league ;)

B.t.w. talking abouth english tuners, what do you think about R-tech and
carbon-chiptuning ?

I also can't recommend any proper tuners over in his country, as i'm from Holland ;)
and don't know any (yet) over there.

We have JD-Engineering, as the ultimate v.a.g. wizard. over here. Well known in Europe.
Aka Jeroen Dik (G60 era).

Cheers,

Pvl


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 19, 2011, 05:11:48 AM
Hi, thank you, i have knowledge about remap. I know remap diesels and few months back start learning MEx and yesterday i bought Audi TT 225HP APX with this ecu and i want to get best from engine (630cc, GT30, ...) and i need to know if better to change ecu to other type or get any damos. I want to set launch control and i have at this time map pack with few maps located ...

Thank you for help - nice when anyone wants help other :)


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 19, 2011, 05:12:37 AM
And yes - i am from Czech Republic of banana  ;D


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 19, 2011, 05:43:10 AM
Hi,

Well well..  630cc, GT30 ...  thats more than software only, my friend. Time to upgrade
the conrods, or you will not only have banana's for sale @ local groceryshop... but will have
airconditioningholes punched by the original conrods in the block, and bend all others to banana's that haven't snapped areadly ;)  Time for forged H-beam conrods.

The original pistons can hold 350-400 bhp. But it all depends on your current mileage (real mileage on the engine, and how it is driven by the previous owner(s) as of wear.

200.000 km or more : new forged pistons and a oversize rebore please. If you want to enjoy the power all day long.

When i have some time left, i'll see which damos suits the AE ecu best/ comes close.

Any info on the tuned software ? (if not want to publish on this public thread, please pm me. Just out of interest/educational info.

Thanks,

PvL


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 19, 2011, 06:13:30 AM
Engine have real 225.000 km.
I want about 400HP so i will change pistons and rods.
Driving from previous owners dont know of course :( I think heavy in this car but engine looks good and fresh ... :)
Do you recommend to change this ecu to another or not for better mods? Launch control need set to this weekend ;)

Tuned sw is from unknown tuner, i got my mod and works better and no difficult to get 7000 as before with unknown mod ... You thing is good or not?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: lulu2003 on July 19, 2011, 01:13:30 PM
here is an .ori for your engine, so you can check the differences and learn...


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 19, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Thank you, i already have ori file and map pack, but with few maps, not all ... so i need that for exact remap ...


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: TTQS on July 20, 2011, 01:37:42 AM
Hi Cam.

I would recommend joining the Audi TT Forum (www.tt-forum.co.uk) for all the information you need. I used to be a member but left because of the general lack of technical content and because there was too much of a distraction for banter & chit chat and arguments.

Member Steve Collier has done a turbo conversion on his 3.2 V6 but a small number of guys have done successfull ca. 400 bhp large turbo conversions on their 1.8Ts. See here:

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=192511

R80RTT has converted a Quattro Sport 240 PS to GT30 turbos

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=196479&hilit=GT30

User Legoman has done a big turbo build so have a look on his posts.

Doug


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 02:50:41 AM
Thank you, i will try :)
Can anyone help me with finding values for launch control?
I have:
DNMAXH - 13698
VNMX - 15794
NMAXDV - 1369C
NMAX - 1369A
TNMXH - 136A0 ???
NMAXOG - ??? same as NMAXDV?
TMOTNMX - ???
TNMXH - ???



Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: gremlin on July 20, 2011, 08:35:05 AM
AFAIK constants NMAXOG, TMOTNMX and TNMXH are not supported in earlier ME7.5 512K ECUs.



Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 08:38:54 AM
So please, do you can help me with enabling this?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: gremlin on July 20, 2011, 08:58:03 AM
So please, do you can help me with enabling this?

It can not simple enabled, because this parameters are not supported in executive code of ECU programm.
To activate you must rewrite this exec code.
Don't know anybody who done this anytime...


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 09:13:28 AM
Thank you, so which sw which supports this is better to use?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: gremlin on July 20, 2011, 10:04:02 AM
Thank you, so which sw which supports this is better to use?

The question isn't in ECU SW. There isn't suitable SW supported needed features that you can play on this ECU hardware.
If you take next generation ME7.5 ECU with 1024K flash than you need to make not small rework under hood content and some additional electrical rework in а car.   




Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 12:15:31 PM
I will do when will make rebuilding with big turbo, pistons, rods etc.
Is any solution now on this ecu?
Can anybody rewrite code for me?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 03:48:18 PM
I have question, is possible to use 8L0906018M?
Looks like same as mine - with ESP and i have MY2000 but VIN under 050000 ...


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 03:49:39 PM
But still wrong :(
Oh no :(


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 20, 2011, 05:41:24 PM
These computer can be used, if you really need the 1mb flashrom :

8N0906018AH - 0004 - 0261207214 - 1037360322
8N0906018CA - 0010 - 0261208086 - 1037375111
8N0906018H   - 0001 - 0261206795 - 1037360153

@ gremlin : would like to know what mods are needed roughly,  to be able to do that stuff cam wants.  Could you chime-in on that one please ? Very interested in that.

Why do we need the  1mb flash ecu for it ?? Is it about the code in the processor ?

Thanks,

PvL


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 05:52:21 PM
pvl: thank you for advance, so can be done in my sw? I will try that sw in my car ...


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 20, 2011, 06:05:49 PM
pvl: please tell me which ecu hw can accept sw 8N0906018CA - can i use my or have to use ME7.5.5 (06A906032xx for example)? Do you have eeprom or can be used existing?
Thank you


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: pvl on July 20, 2011, 07:02:32 PM
@ cam :

Please try to have a bit of patiënce, and try to understand the difficulty of the issue:

gremlin says : 1mb ecu needed for your wanted extra's.  I wonder why. Let him first
share some details about that. Most interesting what he will come up with, if he can.

For the moment, let's assume gremlin's recommendations on that 1mb ecu, and we
see you have the 512mb flashrom ecu (018AE). So first thing to do, is getting a ME7.5.5
1mb ecu. Lotsa ecu's available, from normal 1.8T's that have this 1Mb flasrhom inside.

I'd like to firstly know why the 1mb-flashrom-ecu is needed. Then we can do a chitchat
about crossflashing ecu's. And takeing care of the eeprom.

B.t.w. what flashtool(s) do you use right now, for your car(s) ?

Cheers,

PvL


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 21, 2011, 01:32:41 AM
I understood but thought is another way you mean than gremlin says ...

I have 1024K ecu already.

Launch control - only this feature i want otherwise i can use current.

I using programmer for this ecu and have original galletto and few else tools ... :)


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: gremlin on July 21, 2011, 08:29:38 AM
I understood but thought is another way you mean than gremlin says ...

I have 1024K ecu already.

Launch control - only this feature i want otherwise i can use current.

Maybe my english is too bad but I try to explain once again. As separate items.

1. APX engine use M7.5 512K with narrow-band lambda control.
2. Doesn't exist any ready SW-version with LC-features witch can be load inside this ECU type.
3. To activate LC possibility you must change ECU to new 1M type.
4. All 1M-type ECUs  for 1.8T engines are with wide-band lambda control.
5. According item 4 you must rework your engine and electrical wiring to suite new ECU
6. Hidden problem of this rework:
  - ESP may not operate properly after rework because CAN messages exchange beetween new ECU and old ABS/ESP unit is different.
 - also may have another electrical incompatibities with electronical equipment of the car.

This is basical minimum.
Hope you haven't more questions.


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 24, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
Understand, thank you. So will leave as is ...

What do you mean about this: http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotbox ?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: gremlin on July 25, 2011, 03:07:12 AM
What do you mean about this: http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotbox ?

Read installation guide for this device...
Maybe it wiil operate as WOT shift or LC.
But seems to me case of ME7.x controlled VW/Audi 1.8T engines this device will NOT CUT fuel when it CUT OFF ignition control.
This means fuel will burn in exhaust, rapid rise exhaust parts temperatures and will be potentially fire dangerous.
All above is IMHO.


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 25, 2011, 05:15:10 AM
Ok, so any else way to make launch control?

Anyone can rewrite code for my ecu? I will pay for that of course ...


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on September 20, 2011, 04:00:27 PM
I have to write my actual state :)
I have launch control and no lift shift and works good :) On my original ecu and 400m race i have now about 13.671s (before NLS) ...
In winter i will make complete rebuild with big turbo, intercooler and many more upgrades :)


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: professor on September 12, 2012, 03:58:05 AM
Thread resurrection for asking if can anyone possible share map pack for ME7.5 512kb narrow band ecus (APX, APU 018AA passat 1999 etc).

Thanks.



Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: bigazz on October 22, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
I would love to have this also


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on April 20, 2013, 12:26:10 PM
Hi all,
so i have rebuild completed :)

Forged rods, forged pistons, GT2871R, Siemens DEKA IV 875cc, 300l/h fuel pump inline with stock fuel pump in tank. Now I have driven about 400 km and on 1,5bar i have 400m@13,54 :)


Map pack for 018F is on this forum :)

Which ecu do you have exactly?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: bigazz on April 26, 2013, 06:17:25 PM
I have 8L0906018M

Im not sure but did you say you launch control on the 512K ECU?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on May 20, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
Long time ...

actual status:

480HP and 530Nm - GTX3076R, Siemens Deka 875cc, pump gas :)

Anybody knows how much torque can handle transmission and haldex?


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: leolux on June 10, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
Long time ...

actual status:

480HP and 530Nm - GTX3076R, Siemens Deka 875cc, pump gas :)

Anybody knows how much torque can handle transmission and haldex?


 i drive at time 652NM and 546HP (EWG) woth no issue on haldex or tramsmission.... on my infos at 700NM the problems starts with the 02m gearbox....


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: leolux on June 10, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
here folks you have full damm... say thx...

Leo


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: cam on July 11, 2014, 10:45:54 AM

 i drive at time 652NM and 546HP (EWG) woth no issue on haldex or tramsmission.... on my infos at 700NM the problems starts with the 02m gearbox....

Thank you :)


I have issue now with idling and revs falling to idle - when i have maf connected will stall and without maf seems much better but not good - all was ok but at one ride suddenly power loss and very bad fuel ratio. After long tests we hoped that is alternator. Today changed and same state.

Any ideas? I have TIAL OPEN BOV, tried three MAFs, all tested - no air leaks, tested all what can be possible - this will be some crap what we overlooked .

Thanks all


Title: Re: TT 225HP APX 8N0906018AE
Post by: slklite on April 12, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Hello, does anyone have any map pack for this ecu ?

I'm trying to find some maps, but I have trouble for now ...

The file leolux uploaded, doesn't work for me, all map folders are empty.

Thank you ;)