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« Reply #240 on: October 26, 2011, 01:25:22 PM »

Thanks berTTos, I want to try and avoid this at first and see if I can fix it without needing to disable anything.  But I remember you posting this in your thread as well... Smiley

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« Reply #241 on: October 26, 2011, 03:30:35 PM »

how much of kfmirl and kfmiop are you changing?  I found changing less yeilded better results... i don't change the entire map and i smooth the stock map into my changes.
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« Reply #242 on: October 26, 2011, 03:47:49 PM »

Thanks berTTos, I want to try and avoid this at first and see if I can fix it without needing to disable anything.  But I remember you posting this in your thread as well... Smiley



No problem - your logs look fantastic.  Congrats on a tune well done so far!
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« Reply #243 on: October 26, 2011, 04:10:19 PM »

BTW Tony@EPL indicated mild torque intervention might be needed for very very big torque setups where the motor isn't built for it.

According to him, KR and extra fuel isn't always enough to limit cylinder pressures.
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« Reply #244 on: October 26, 2011, 06:51:24 PM »

yes I am aware of that... as well...

btw I tried the following tonight:

I tried lowering the values in IOP and load values in IRL with no success other them making the car less aggressive...

This is interesting though... Jason @ AMD is pointing to something to do with the N249, but I'm not yet sure how it all comes together:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/421890-NOTORIOUS-VR-s-Stock-2.7T-TiAL-S605-Build?p=6977725&viewfull=1#post6977725
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« Reply #245 on: October 27, 2011, 10:07:34 AM »

ok so far the things I've tried haven't done squat...

can someone who knows ME7L quite well help me with what variables to log to see if we can get this figured out?

Looking over the FR last night and the TQ model is very complicated and involves a lot of factors.

Cheers!
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« Reply #246 on: October 27, 2011, 10:09:49 AM »

here is my progress

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,970.msg8735.html#msg8735

haven't had time to hit the dyno, so i never finished my investigation
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« Reply #247 on: October 27, 2011, 10:30:18 AM »

I am going to go back to one of my earlier files to see if I can track down exactly what changed that caused me to get to the TQ limit problem.

I have a hunch it is when I changed the optimal ignition tables WOP and WOP2 (increasing them).
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« Reply #248 on: October 27, 2011, 01:33:25 PM »

I've added the following to my cfg for ME7L, will that be enough to get some information that might be needed?

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;Added timing variables
zwbasar_0        ;{}                                 ; {Basiszündwinkelarray}
zwbasar_1        ;{}                                 ; {Basiszündwinkelarray}
zwbasar_2        ;{}                                 ; {Basiszündwinkelarray}
zwbasar_3        ;{}                                 ; {Basiszündwinkelarray}
zwbasar_4        ;{}                                 ; {Basiszündwinkelarray}
zwbasar_5        ;{}                                 ; {Basiszündwinkelarray}
zwdynsh          ;{}                                 ; {Zähler für Anzahl der Dynamikmessungen für Sonde hinter KAT}
zwdynsh2         ;{}                                 ; {Zähler für Anzahl der Dynamikmessungen für Sonde hinter KAT Bank 2}
zwgru            ;{}                                 ; {Grundzündwinkel}
zwist            ;{IgnitionTimingAngle}              ; {Ist-Zündwinkel}
zwmnms           ;{}                                 ; {dauerhaft spätest möglicher Zündwinkel}
zwnws            ;{}                                 ; {Grundzündwinkel mit Berücksichtigung von Nockenwellensteuerung}
zwopt            ;{}                                 ; {optimaler Zündwinkel}
zwspae           ;{}                                 ; {Spätester Zündwinkel}
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« Reply #249 on: October 27, 2011, 01:45:50 PM »

wkrdy and dzwwl maybe
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« Reply #250 on: October 27, 2011, 02:00:35 PM »

done
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« Reply #251 on: October 27, 2011, 03:01:28 PM »

Put one of my older files in with just a few tweaks and the car drives normal again... Pretty certain at this point it was WOP and WOP2.

I'll get some logs this weekend of the other file to see if we can find out where/what is causing the TQ exceeded code and how to avoid/change it.

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« Reply #252 on: October 27, 2011, 03:09:59 PM »

also mizsol, miopt, and dmaufr
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« Reply #253 on: October 27, 2011, 04:24:58 PM »

Put one of my older files in with just a few tweaks and the car drives normal again... Pretty certain at this point it was WOP and WOP2.

I'll get some logs this weekend of the other file to see if we can find out where/what is causing the TQ exceeded code and how to avoid/change it.


I have increased both of those maps substantially and never had a tq exceeded code. (several cars) 
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« Reply #254 on: October 27, 2011, 04:55:13 PM »

Put one of my older files in with just a few tweaks and the car drives normal again... Pretty certain at this point it was WOP and WOP2.

I'll get some logs this weekend of the other file to see if we can find out where/what is causing the TQ exceeded code and how to avoid/change it.



You increased KFZWOP? What is the logic in that?

I think you need to look at MDFUE. I am not at my laptop right now, can we log misopl1_w?

Edit: misopl1_w is defined in the config file.
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