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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: k0mpresd on September 27, 2012, 08:36:50 AM



Title: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: k0mpresd on September 27, 2012, 08:36:50 AM
the d@mos i have does not have these maps listed for whatever reason. the "tuned" file i have has 9 of them in a row, turned up 15% on the bottom row.

can someone please help me out with what they are and the factor please?

starting @ 1F1B5E, as seen in the screenshot.


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: Gonzo on September 27, 2012, 08:50:58 PM
N75 duty cycle?

That would be my educated guess since I have never tuned one of these.


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: k0mpresd on September 27, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
definitely not 75. but i got them sorted.  :)


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: Rick on September 28, 2012, 12:40:44 AM
It is the Nm to IQ map.  I.e. It relates torque to injected quantity.  It is a basic calibration map that a lot of people miss.  Unless changed, the increased torque you request will not actually do anything as the calibration map is not scaled correctly.  The last column is increased by a fixed percentage, as is the last value in the x axis to meet the new max drivers wish value.

A similar thing then needs doing to another map which relates IQ to injector opening time, as this is a common rail engine.

Rick


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: prj on September 28, 2012, 04:34:26 AM
definitely not 75. but i got them sorted.  :)

So, you are doing this again. Asking for help, then writing "sorted"...

It is the Nm to IQ map.  I.e. It relates torque to injected quantity.  It is a basic calibration map that a lot of people miss.  Unless changed, the increased torque you request will not actually do anything as the calibration map is not scaled correctly.  The last column is increased by a fixed percentage, as is the last value in the x axis to meet the new max drivers wish value.

A similar thing then needs doing to another map which relates IQ to injector opening time, as this is a common rail engine.

Rick

Thank you.


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: k0mpresd on September 28, 2012, 05:07:01 AM
So, you are doing this again. Asking for help, then writing "sorted"...

Thank you.

i was on my mobile and it was pretty late when i made that comment. im actually on my mobile now. i was going to just put "they are fueling maps", which honestly i thought i had. im so sorry that you feel im short changing you information somehow. some of it paid information (tprot patch).
ricks description is actually a bit more detailed than the information i had received before. so thanks. :)

the file i have also has the axis for these maps changed.


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: Rick on September 28, 2012, 05:27:01 AM
The axis value changed will be the new increased torque value which corresponds to the new amount of fuel injected.

Rick


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: prj on September 28, 2012, 06:58:44 AM
im so sorry that you feel im short changing you information somehow.
This is not about me, don't try to turn this into some sort of personal issue, because it's not - this is basic forum etiquette. What saddens me is that you don't even see where you are going wrong.
But enough of drama.


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: k0mpresd on September 28, 2012, 07:07:13 AM
The axis value changed will be the new increased torque value which corresponds to the new amount of fuel injected.

Rick

yes, this i already knew. but thanks.


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: k0mpresd on September 28, 2012, 08:50:11 AM
.4000 factor correct?


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: Rick on September 28, 2012, 12:13:00 PM
No, not 0.4

Rick


Title: Re: what are these maps in my vag edc17? d@mos doesnt show them.
Post by: RS-MAD on October 03, 2012, 11:38:55 AM
RPM factor 0.5
NM factor 0.1
values in map factor 0.01