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« on: April 16, 2011, 03:37:03 AM »
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Was at the Nurburgring last weekend, a friend has a remapped Bora 1.9 PD 130 TDI. I tried to read the ECU and no comms. I don't even know what ECU's these use, but I'm guessing it's not supported?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 07:53:15 AM »
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Was at the Nurburgring last weekend, a friend has a remapped Bora 1.9 PD 130 TDI. I tried to read the ECU and no comms. I don't even know what ECU's these use, but I'm guessing it's not supported?
Rick
Gosh i wish i could say i was at the Ring.....anyways, EDC 15/16/17, yes a little different, you need to BDM 17 i i think, otherwise KWP will read the others, or galletto. |
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 01:39:08 AM »
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How do we get NefMoto to read TDI ECUs? I am particularly interested in EDC15 as I am trying to read out a Passat TDI PD 130 ECU. I know we can use KWP/Galletto but NefMoto just looks so much neater  Thanks for help! |
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 11:01:36 AM »
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If someone posts some logs of trying to read and write a TDI with the NefMoto software, I can evaluate how hard it would be to support them.
I attempted to read and write a 2005 VW TDI a while back, and ran into some non-standard communication issues.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 11:49:19 AM »
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Yes, I had the same issues this morning. Tell me what you need exactly and I will get it for you.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 01:24:32 PM »
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If you open the NefMoto flasher, and then from the file menu, open the log file or the log file location, and then post the log file to this forum thread.
Then I can see where in the flashing process it is failing.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 01:28:42 PM »
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orienz, I got the log file you send me via PM.
The log file shows that the NefMoto flasher was never able to connect to the ECU with fast init or slow init. The reason your Ross-Tech cable may not of worked, is that is did not appear to be in "dumb mode". To change the mode of the cable you need to change the options in VCDS. I believe you need to turn off "use intelligent mode".
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 01:51:11 PM »
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Tony,
using my normal dumb cable, I couldn't connect with either fast or slow.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 01:53:15 PM »
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Is VCDS or Monoscan able to connect?
Slow init uses KWP1281 to connect and fast init uses KWP2000 to connect.
I can't think of any reason slow init wouldn't work.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 01:58:06 PM »
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Yea, VCDS connected no problem.
Similar issue to UK C box S4 then - maybe it would connect on the bench.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 02:09:45 PM »
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I guess I must be missing something in the slow init that is different on these cars.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 03:03:25 PM »
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Tony,
Yes I saw that but then I switched to blue ebay cable and it said "fast init successful" and then it just disconnects. I just read my brother's Skoda Octavia RS successfuly with this blue cable, worked just fine.
Diesel support would REALLY be great. We gotta figure this out. Your flashing tool ROCKS.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 03:14:47 PM »
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Since connecting to the ECU seems to be the problem, what would help me the most is if someone could record VCDS making a connection to the ECU. If we get a recording using a logic analyzer or a serial port sniffer then I can see what the difference is in the connection method.
I will try to connect Uwe at Ross-Tech to see if he can give me any hints.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 04:57:17 PM »
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I spoke to Uwe, and he said that the EDC15 does not have any special connection requirements relative to the ME7. He said that the EDC15 may be more picky about the connection timings and he pointed out that my slow init bit timings may have cumulative error in them. I will see if I can do a quick update that should prevent the connection timings from having cumulative error. Hopefully this is the reason we can't connect to the EDC15.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2011, 02:55:34 AM »
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Excellent news, I will test it out as soon as you publish an update.
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