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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2013, 07:07:30 AM »

a while back a VBF creator tool was shared with me, and it seems to load in, and go through all of the steps a regular volvo software flash does, but im going to have to take some logs if i get around to it to see what the error was to why it would not write after erasing

as for a bench flasher i took an old ECU box from a junkyard and made a setup out of that using MPPS, i have not had a problem with it using bootmode.

as far as cloning, argdub's tool will not work on p2R's Immo, i had to clone mine the oldschool method of desoldering reading and soldering.

for flashing these chips im using a gq-4x

and prj, the emulator is the best way, but i have still been trying to wrap my head around coding the ECU into a test mode, and due to the fact that i cannot figure that out yet, i have not made the plunge.
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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2013, 10:08:05 AM »

a while back a VBF creator tool was shared with me, and it seems to load in, and go through all of the steps a regular volvo software flash does, but im going to have to take some logs if i get around to it to see what the error was to why it would not write after erasing

as for a bench flasher i took an old ECU box from a junkyard and made a setup out of that using MPPS, i have not had a problem with it using bootmode.

as far as cloning, argdub's tool will not work on p2R's Immo, i had to clone mine the oldschool method of desoldering reading and soldering.

for flashing these chips im using a gq-4x

and prj, the emulator is the best way, but i have still been trying to wrap my head around coding the ECU into a test mode, and due to the fact that i cannot figure that out yet, i have not made the plunge.

Which version of MPPS works with Volvo ME7?

Thanks for sharing.

With SDA you need to send PBL VBF first then a BIN VBF.

I have all of the CAN ID's required to flash if anyone want's to code something.

Reading is only possible sector by sector as far as I know so bench reading your original map is required.  I have the commands for that as well.  I also can get the SBL for my 2005 S60R with a bit of work.
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I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2013, 02:29:00 PM »

i'm using v12, makes sense with vbf lol, never really tried it much, i do not have a SBL
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2013, 01:00:11 PM »

Ordered a cable, ECU's and other bits should be with me in a few weeks to start experimenting!

I'm planning to make a harness out of an old ME7 ecu box and start from there Smiley
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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2013, 10:52:56 AM »

Anybody get anywhere with this?

I have managed to create what appears to be a fairly stable bench flashing system. I have been writing, reading, verifying to check how reliable it is and have not had a problem for the last 20 or so attempts since my first connection with Minimon, which was probably more down to my retarded use of it! Still prooved to me it worked somewhat though!

The bench flasher is made of a harness lifted from a scrapper and wired up according to Autodata and what I have found online. I am using an MPPS 3.0.2.37 which was lent to me, I believe it is a cheap copy one. Everything is done in boot mode.

I downloaded Dilemma's Motronic suite and have been trying to use a combination of that and WinOls to figure out what maps are what. I have a few defined in Ols now; KFMIRL, KFLRST, KFMSNWDK, KFPED, LAMFA and I think KFMIOP. In fairness I should probably say "I think" to the rest of them too!

I have a "stage 2" modified map and a standard one from a UK '06 V70 2.4 T5 which I have been learning to compare on WinOls, and have also made changes in Dilemma's automatically found maps in Motronic suite to locate them in WinOls.

Using WinOls and knowledge of the ME7's seemingly ridiculously over complicated workings (I come from Honda PGMFI OBD 0 & 1, and standalone!) are my current limiting factors I think, so I'm carrying on as best I can, having a good learn along the way! Any information pertaining to these Ecu's would be very much appreciated though! I'm only doing it to tinker with a mates car, and seem to be hooked on figuring it out!

I can try to figure out the attachments thing on here and share the files and/or a pin out if it will help anybody out?

Cheers for any help - Mark
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2013, 11:17:34 AM »

That should be the same map layout as mine which is an 05 S60R.

If you post the files up in the correct forums we can maybe or together?
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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
ORIGINAL Datalogger (Freeware) Author
ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2013, 11:24:30 AM »

Volvo ME7 pretty similiar to Vag ME7. I even used Galletto2, Vag me7 bootmode for reading and writing, and everything was perfect. I think it can be done with Galletto 1260 also.

P.S. You missed LDRXN, KFZW, KFDLHBN at least.
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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2013, 11:41:35 AM »

I've attached them here, but please someone say if this is the wrong area or anything and I will gladly take them down.

I also attached my poor attempt at a definition thing with WinOls.

Cheers terminator, I shall continue turning my eyes square!
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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2013, 11:48:34 AM »

I'll take a gander in a day or so and if they match we can compare notes?

Do you know where the stage2 came from?  What are you trying to accomplish?
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How to work out values from an A2L Smiley

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5525.msg52371#msg52371


Starting Rev's http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.msg51169#msg51169

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ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
ORIGINAL Datalogger (Freeware) Author
ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2013, 11:58:14 AM »

I've attached them here, but please someone say if this is the wrong area or anything and I will gladly take them down.

I also attached my poor attempt at a definition thing with WinOls.

Cheers terminator, I shall continue turning my eyes square!

It was wrong defined  Smiley

Actaully for stage 1 you can mod only 3 maps: LDRXN, KFLDHBN, KFZW.

KFPED that you found actually is not KFPED, but KFWDKMSN.
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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2013, 12:11:26 PM »

Cheers!

Do you happen to have yours to hand?

Would be nice to do the same comparison is all!

The Stage 2 came from a friend of a friend, I have asked what it is but unsure yet. The original file is meant to be from the same car though.

The actual car my friend I am looking into this for has is an ex police V70 T5, I think it is the B5244T5 that is in it. The code on top is 0261208289. I am yet to read his ecu, still practicing before doing his, I wouldn't hear the end if I were to brick it! He just wants it to be faster, I am just a sucker for a challenge, seemingly.

Thanks for the help Terminator, I shall do much more reading!
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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2013, 12:33:36 PM »

First, I suggest you to read S4 wiki. The most of maps looks very similiar in 2D mode with VAG ECU.

KFZW starts from 1323E. 12x16 
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« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2013, 01:25:03 PM »

I stumbled across that before, I shall have another read.

Thanks for that! I have found the other three similar maps next to that and am trying to figure out which is which now, and to find the axes.

I am very envious of your ability to just recognise them all! I imagine it will take years before I get to that point!

Would you say that the tuning strategy used by the author of this "stage 2" map is any good?

Thanks again - Mark
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« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2013, 01:48:51 PM »


Would you say that the tuning strategy used by the author of this "stage 2" map is any good?

The strategy with KFMIRL/KFMIOP is quite interesting, in particualar KFMIOP... Also, KFLDHBN would benefit if adjusted somewhat as well for higher boost levels if that was requested by LDRXN but
LDRXN is kept untouched... I'd say it's total crap to be honest.
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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013, 02:39:14 PM »

I'd say it's total crap to be honest.

 Cheesy

Thanks for the honesty Fredrik. I had planned to just try this map on with my LM-2 plugged in and make sure the AFR's were at least something like, but shan't bother now!

Care to elaborate upon the peculiarities of the KFMIRL vs KFMIOP relationship?

I have also just been informed that the lad had a problem with torque surging with this map. Is it that the requested load is beyond the limit, LDRXN, then?

Any chance you could post the location of LDRXN? And any of the other maps locations would be appreciated! In fact, any other info at all!

All the best, and many thanks - Mark
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