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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2016, 06:46:15 AM »

increase tabgbts to something like 850-900 so that it's essentially disabled until egts rise higher.  enrich more with lamfa.  Try targeting .87-.85 lambda with those stock boost levels and take more logs.

Try to capture your part throttle issues in a log and only upload that portion of a log file so it's easier for us to help you.
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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2016, 12:39:36 PM »

Ok, I will make those changes and log before the weekend.

Here is a screen cap of what I'm speaking of. It shows the effect and what I can physically see on the pneumatic boost gauge I have. It is very physically noticeable, as if torque suddenly and violently drops off then pops back up again.

As you can see, the pedal position is still and uniform but the throttle plate opens suddenly and then closes before re-leveling out. It is most noticeable in 2nd but can be felt in all gears.

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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2016, 01:52:26 PM »

Why is your rlmax_w so screwy?
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2016, 02:08:40 PM »

ha, that's why I'm here. for input as to why my car is so screwy. That's a good question. What variables contribute to calculating specified load max?

reading the wiki as I post....bad IAT sensor?

also, in ecuxplot, rlmax_W is engine load specified...?


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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2016, 09:31:18 PM »

So, I did a bit of research on similar variables and other things. I've also known about my odd boost profile for a while. This is all factory programming folks.....

Added more fuel. BTS is at 870 and comes in at 680 aprox but not until 5750 rpm. Not bad but I'mnot sure if ya'll want BTS to dissapear completely or what and how to do that.

set AFR to .8413 which is a bit rich but probably safer.

Maybe not BTS? maybe ATR?

what next?

Edit: second image is more evidence of the boost drop, although it is practically un noticeable in WOT The throttle plate closes suddenly for mysterious reasons. No physical driver input and everything drops off…What is going on?
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« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2016, 10:25:57 PM »

what is your idc?
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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2016, 01:27:17 PM »

on it's way up to 100, hits 100 once BTS kicks in then proceeds to exceed 100.

edit: I raised BTS to 1050, enriched in the 94% pedal position column to .8438. WOT in 2nd and 3rd, separate logs.

BTS did not move from when it was 870. Something else is involved as to why it is not moving.
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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2016, 04:38:27 PM »

on it's way up to 100, hits 100 once BTS kicks in then proceeds to exceed 100.

edit: I raised BTS to 1050, enriched in the 94% pedal position column to .8438. WOT in 2nd and 3rd, separate logs.

BTS did not move from when it was 870. Something else is involved as to why it is not moving.

Erm you need bigger injectors or less boost read RKTI in the WIKI to see why.
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« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2016, 05:42:04 PM »

That makes no sense. I havent even raised boost. Awp 180 hp 11 psi. This isnt helpful
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« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2016, 05:42:25 PM »

on it's way up to 100, hits 100 once BTS kicks in then proceeds to exceed 100.


LOL.
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« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2016, 05:47:25 PM »

If you are hitting BTS and enriching past 100 IDC, may as well numb BTS to 11.5 and call it a day, because it won't do you any good w/o bigger injectors.
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« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2016, 05:49:19 PM »

I'm sorry if this was posted somewhere in this thread before, but have you physically measured your fuel pressure at any point?
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« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2016, 06:08:23 PM »

there's a torque limiter controller in RKTI.....for obvious reasons if you like your cylinder head..

Log the vars and find out, it can be bypassed but OMG why.
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« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2016, 06:11:04 PM »

I'm sorry if this was posted somewhere in this thread before, but have you physically measured your fuel pressure at any point?

idk either but good point and new filter I guess...
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http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5525.msg52371#msg52371


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« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2016, 06:11:38 PM »

That makes no sense. I havent even raised boost. Awp 180 hp 11 psi. This isnt helpful


This means something else is VERY wrong with your setup.
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