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« on: May 26, 2014, 01:52:06 PM »
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I'm looking for advice about tuners that offers custom/special tunes. (Me7.5)
I live in Sweden and here there is almost no tuners that has good knowledge about tuning Me7.5, especially if you want a custom/special tune.
Also most tuners that do offer tunes for me7.5 only has the basic stage 1, 2 etc.
and they do not want to receive the ecu and flash it, they want the car at the shop for tuning.
At the moment I'm thinking I want a custom stage 1 tune with options like: tfsi coils, SAI delete, launch control.
Maybe even bigger injectors and MAF even if the stage 1 performance do not actually need them.
I want to prep the engine for a big turbo setup, hardware wise but wait with the actual turbo swap. And when I do use a bigger turbo I obvious need to retune the ecu again.
I know this forum is all about tuning your ECU yourself. But I do not want to tinker and experiment on my only car. That I can do when the time is right and I can get a second car.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 02:11:50 PM »
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I'm looking for advice about tuners that offers custom/special tunes. (Me7.5)
I live in Sweden and here there is almost no tuners that has good knowledge about tuning Me7.5, especially if you want a custom/special tune.
Also most tuners that do offer tunes for me7.5 only has the basic stage 1, 2 etc.
and they do not want to receive the ecu and flash it, they want the car at the shop for tuning.
At the moment I'm thinking I want a custom stage 1 tune with options like: tfsi coils, SAI delete, launch control.
Maybe even bigger injectors and MAF even if the stage 1 performance do not actually need them.
I want to prep the engine for a big turbo setup, hardware wise but wait with the actual turbo swap. And when I do use a bigger turbo I obvious need to retune the ecu again.
I know this forum is all about tuning your ECU yourself. But I do not want to tinker and experiment on my only car. That I can do when the time is right and I can get a second car.
find a second ECU for your car, read some more in the forum and do all that of which you want yourself. |
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 02:55:36 PM »
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Well, if you get the big turbo setup, then you can do what a few of the Swedes have done and get your car on a boat here, and have me tune it....
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Terror_Flynn
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 03:39:58 AM »
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Hmm.. I think I am too impatient and slow in the head to trying to understand everything so I can tune my car at the moment, especially when it is my daily driver at the moment and I do not have the time for it.
But I do read a lot of threads on this forum and trying to understand things, it is very interesting.
Yes, I already have two spare ECU:s, one is a 018CG (like the box in my car) and the other box is an 018R box. I just need a bench flashing cable, then I can start with reading the original BIN's from the spare boxes. Then I can start to tinker and trying to learn some basic tuning perhaps.
I have already posted my original BIN from my car on this forum.
I prefer to send a box to a tuner.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 04:36:55 AM »
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I imagine it being impossible to tune a big turbo without the car!
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 05:05:35 AM »
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I imagine it being impossible to tune a big turbo without the car! Then go and ask Revo how to make one big turbo file suits all big turbo conversions on 1.8T :-D |
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 05:32:59 AM »
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But that will be a mass-production hardware + tune, not a custom turbo build and remote imaginary mapping-athon.
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prj
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 05:33:52 AM »
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I prefer to send a box to a tuner. That's not how it works if you want anything remotely decent. Unless that box contains the car as well. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 06:53:44 AM »
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Honestly tuning yourself is not as hard as some people want to make it sound. If you need a bench power supply use a old ATX computer power supply (I do). I wired in resistors on the 3.3v and 5.5v side to balance the load on 12v side. Then just short ground to the "power on" signal wire, this will make it power up when plugged in. The next thing you want to do is go to the junk yard and cut the main harness plug off a junk car, then cut all but the 5 wires off you need (+12v, +12v ign, -12v x2, K line). Then what you need and it makes it real easy is the obd2 to obd1 adapter from ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAG-COM-Audi-VW-Skoda-2x2-2-2-To-16-Pin-Female-Adapter-Connector-OBD-2-Cable-/271390713260?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item3f3025a5ac&vxp=mtrthis makes it nice and easy to plug your cables into and out. Your only going to use 3 of the 4 wires from the adapter (K Line, +12v, -12v). Now that you have your power supply prepped you are going to start connecting wires... best thing is to solder and use heat shrink for durability. Connect all the grounds (run a extra ground wire if using stranded wire best to tin the other end. This ground wire is for grounding the boot pin for bootmode on start up), then all 12v+ get put together, but on the 12v+ for ign install a toggle switch first. This makes it easy for bootmode) last is K line from obd adapter directly connected to ecu plug. After I was done I jammed all the extra wires into the power supply... what your left with is a clean, plug and play, bench top power supply with more then ample power for less then $20 all in! The power supply I used was 400 watt witch is about 3.8-4 amps @ 13.3v constant power, the ecu only need about 1 amp @12v (11.5v minimum) so this is more then enough. Now that you have your low cost power supply rigged up you can use your KKL, galletto, mpps or other cable to easily flash with a simple plug and play setup. all pinouts are easily found here and on google. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2014, 06:57:10 AM »
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But that will be a mass-production hardware + tune, not a custom turbo build and remote imaginary mapping-athon. I know what it is - even if they really are that good and got ME working principle exactly as it was designed their product is just a crap because no one can make one file suits all. Even 2 cars with exactly same hardware could behave differently and that is why you can only get best results making custom tune for your car. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 07:32:57 AM »
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I just cut the end off a $3 12v adapter! Honestly tuning yourself is not as hard as some people want to make it sound. If you need a bench power supply use a old ATX computer power supply (I do). I wired in resistors on the 3.3v and 5.5v side to balance the load on 12v side. Then just short ground to the "power on" signal wire, this will make it power up when plugged in. The next thing you want to do is go to the junk yard and cut the main harness plug off a junk car, then cut all but the 5 wires off you need (+12v, +12v ign, -12v x2, K line). Then what you need and it makes it real easy is the obd2 to obd1 adapter from ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/VAG-COM-Audi-VW-Skoda-2x2-2-2-To-16-Pin-Female-Adapter-Connector-OBD-2-Cable-/271390713260?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item3f3025a5ac&vxp=mtrthis makes it nice and easy to plug your cables into and out. Your only going to use 3 of the 4 wires from the adapter (K Line, +12v, -12v). Now that you have your power supply prepped you are going to start connecting wires... best thing is to solder and use heat shrink for durability. Connect all the grounds (run a extra ground wire if using stranded wire best to tin the other end. This ground wire is for grounding the boot pin for bootmode on start up), then all 12v+ get put together, but on the 12v+ for ign install a toggle switch first. This makes it easy for bootmode) last is K line from obd adapter directly connected to ecu plug. After I was done I jammed all the extra wires into the power supply... what your left with is a clean, plug and play, bench top power supply with more then ample power for less then $20 all in! The power supply I used was 400 watt witch is about 3.8-4 amps @ 13.3v constant power, the ecu only need about 1 amp @12v (11.5v minimum) so this is more then enough. Now that you have your low cost power supply rigged up you can use your KKL, galletto, mpps or other cable to easily flash with a simple plug and play setup. all pinouts are easily found here and on google. |
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dream3R
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 07:35:02 AM »
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I know what it is - even if they really are that good and got ME working principle exactly as it was designed their product is just a crap because no one can make one file suits all. Even 2 cars with exactly same hardware could behave differently and that is why you can only get best results making custom tune for your car.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 08:44:12 AM »
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She ain't pretty but she does the job
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 01:24:31 AM »
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That's not how it works if you want anything remotely decent.
Unless that box contains the car as well.
Yes, with a big turbo setup, I can understand that you want the car and not just only ecu. But at the moment I am looking for a basic stage 1 tune, the thing that is custom with it is the optional things I like to have, like: launch control, tfsi coils, SAI delete and maybe some more things. Those optional things doesn't the tuners here in Sweden offer. When I eventually do a full big turbo upgrade then I understand it takes a more serious retune. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2014, 09:08:57 AM »
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I suggest mailing the car to PRJ in numerous flat rate envelopes.
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