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Technical => Flashing and Chipping => Topic started by: Gulfstream on October 12, 2020, 12:35:48 PM



Title: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 12, 2020, 12:35:48 PM
I need to read and write a siemens mse3.7 (2009), but i my actual software v2.25, i cant read, always have a message that have communications problems. I believe that my ecu have a different family, maybe others versions have this protocols.

Can someone help me? I bought a ktag clone have more than 1 year and just now i use this. And started to use with communications problems!

I downloaded the version 2.32 and 2.33, but i dont install because i read that some versions can block the ktag clone!

First, how can i know whats my ecu family?


I believe that when i can read the file, tuning and etc will be very usefull to the others sea doo jetski users with siemens ecu that search for it on the internet, no one posted here yet about siemens jetski ecu!



Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: xXxCryxXx on October 12, 2020, 01:39:46 PM
no way with clone.

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Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 17, 2020, 09:04:32 PM
no way with clone.

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The version 2.23 and 2.2.5 with clone ktag have problems to read the Sismens MSE3.7R.

I dont know how i will read and write this ecu!


Title: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: xXxCryxXx on October 18, 2020, 02:22:47 AM
The version 2.23 and 2.2.5 with clone ktag have problems to read the Sismens MSE3.7R.

I dont know how i will read and write this ecu!
Buy Ori Tool, if you brick your ecu while writing that work costs a lot of Money

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Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: _nameless on October 18, 2020, 06:11:42 AM
my clone works just fine for me


Title: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 27, 2020, 02:48:02 PM
Buy Ori Tool, if you brick your ecu while writing that work costs a lot of Money

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I researched it a while ago and I read that ori tools dont record edited files, only ready-made files! And the ECU is already open! I even thought of replacing it with a Bosch.


Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 27, 2020, 02:50:12 PM
my clone works just fine for me

But when i click on read, appears the error comunication message!!

if the ECU is connected or not on ktag, the same message.


Title: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: xXxCryxXx on October 27, 2020, 02:50:57 PM

I researched it a while ago and I read that ori tools dont record edited files, only ready-made files! And the ECU is already open! I even thought of replacing it with a Bosch.
Doesent matter... KTag reads that whats inside the ecu ... no matter if tuned or not read out is read out - in case there is a readout with tune file you can download it at Alientech Database

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Title: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 28, 2020, 08:42:20 AM
Doesent matter... KTag reads that whats inside the ecu ... no matter if tuned or not read out is read out - in case there is a readout with tune file you can download it at Alientech Database

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I tried today with originak ktag and was the same error!!!

I don't know why!!!

Have a way to change this siemens ecu to a bosch ecu?? Its a 3 cilinder engine with trottle cable.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: xXxCryxXx on October 28, 2020, 09:27:43 AM
I tried today with originak ktag and was the same error!!!

I don't know why!!!

Have a way to change this siemens ecu to a bosch ecu?? Its a 3 cilinder engine with trottle cable.
Sorry i forgot to say MS3.8 is not supported from Ktag ... so maybe u will need a EEprom programmer and desolder .... i think writing is not Possible

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 28, 2020, 10:33:06 AM
Sorry i forgot to say MS3.8 is not supported from Ktag ... so maybe u will need a EEprom programmer and desolder .... i think writing is not Possible

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Its a 3.7!

You know a programmer to read st10f269? My programmer (batronix bx40) dont have this st10f269 on the list.

I think that will be more easy chance the ECU, or not..

This ECU is so different than Bosch M3.82 and M7.1 from Passats that i read with MPPS and BX40. MSE3.7 i read that can adapt in 50%, so more than M382/M7.1, and i use E100, when hot, the engine works without fails, have a good adaptation, but i need to advance the ignition to better performance!


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: xXxCryxXx on October 28, 2020, 10:36:17 AM
Its a 3.7!

You know a programmer to read st10f269? My programmer (batronix bx40) dont have this st10f269 on the list.

I think that will be more easy chance the ECU, or not..

This ECU is so different than Bosch M3.82 and M7.1 from Passats that i read with MPPS and BX40. MSE3.7 i read that can adapt in 50%, so more than M382/M7.1, and i use E100, when hot, the engine works without fails, have a good adaptation, but i need to advance the ignition to better performance!
this?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201028/dc17e5755a9b0ec92226e83ba9d690f3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: xXxCryxXx on October 28, 2020, 10:39:42 AM
this?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201028/dc17e5755a9b0ec92226e83ba9d690f3.jpg)

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Sorry wrong... nope i dont know

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 28, 2020, 11:00:00 AM
Sorry wrong... nope i dont know

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ok!!

 


Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: BlackT on October 28, 2020, 03:05:47 PM
This maybe help?
http://dius.magelan.net.ua/Bombardier/Reprogram/


Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 29, 2020, 01:27:54 PM
This maybe help?
http://dius.magelan.net.ua/Bombardier/Reprogram/


It would be a good thing if I had seen it before cutting my ECU to open!
:(


Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: BlackT on October 29, 2020, 01:37:35 PM

It would be a good thing if I had seen it before cutting my ECU to open!
:(
Look at all files, looks like there is a program to flash
ST10F269

Code:
    This program is made for laboratory environments and usage by engineers knowing the device they are working with. This is a free tool which must be taken as it is, no support being ensured.

The target of this flasher is simple: A engineer develops code for one of STMicroelectronics nice embedded flash microcontrollers (like the ST10F168 and others) and wants to program it (fast and easy) from his desktop PC into the chip. If that is what you are looking for, then this program is for you.
   

Code:
     ---------
ST10Flasher supports following ST10 derivatives:
ST10F168, ST10F169, ST10F269
 



Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 29, 2020, 01:52:50 PM
Look at all files, looks like there is a program to flash
ST10F269

Code:
    This program is made for laboratory environments and usage by engineers knowing the device they are working with. This is a free tool which must be taken as it is, no support being ensured.

The target of this flasher is simple: A engineer develops code for one of STMicroelectronics nice embedded flash microcontrollers (like the ST10F168 and others) and wants to program it (fast and easy) from his desktop PC into the chip. If that is what you are looking for, then this program is for you.
   

Code:
     ---------
ST10Flasher supports following ST10 derivatives:
ST10F168, ST10F169, ST10F269
 



Iwill buy this programmer to make a test!!!

Thanks for information


Title: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on October 29, 2020, 01:53:55 PM
This maybe help?
http://dius.magelan.net.ua/Bombardier/Reprogram/

all these pisctures are to use in ktag? or will fit to all programmers?

thanks for pictures and video!


Title: Re: Re: K-TAG clone V2.23 can work with 2.33?
Post by: Gulfstream on January 12, 2021, 04:38:54 PM
Buy Ori Tool, if you brick your ecu while writing that work costs a lot of Money

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I tried with original ktag and dont works.

Its a so different ECU, have few information.


so far i don't know which programmer can read this ecu. So there's no way to buy original or fake programmer
:(