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« on: March 28, 2013, 04:05:44 AM »

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I would like to change the cluster of a S4 to a RS4 Cluster. Is it possible to simply change the eeprom of the cluster in order not to re-learn the keys? Is the eeprom identical regarding it's content between S4 and RS4?
many thanks in advance
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 07:00:24 AM »

may help
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/480591-RS4-S4-B5-cluster-for-Audi-A4-B5
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 08:42:22 AM »

If it is a NA ECU, you don't have to worry about the immo - except the immo light, which you can mask out by putting electrical tape on the back of the overlay.

You will have to change the country code to get mph and mpg (and optionally the overlay as described in the thread)

You also MAY get a missing message DTC P1650
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3276.msg33126#msg33126

I have a spare RS4 cluster that i've been meaning to put in my B5 but i have yet to do try it.

Please let us know if you get yours working, i will also post my results if I ever get around to it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 11:50:18 AM »

Nye - Sell me your RS4 cluster.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 12:24:48 PM »

No, sell it to me please Smiley (There is one on ebay.de for 400 EUR btw (http://bit.ly/Xf9Xv4)
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2013, 10:55:14 AM »

I'm having some issues coding it to mph/mpg

Looks like the RS4 cluster I have has a different date/time display that does not have AM/PM or MM/DD/YYYY support

so the US coding (00264) does't work, the display is garbled (month is garbled, pm time does not display correctly).

I am going to try to transplant a US date/time display and see if that works.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2013, 11:06:25 AM »

I'm having some issues coding it to mph/mpg

Looks like the RS4 cluster I have has a different date/time display that does not have AM/PM or MM/DD/YYYY support

so the US coding (00264) does't work, the display is garbled (month is garbled, pm time does not display correctly).

I am going to try to transplant a US date/time display and see if that works.

Nye:

Why not copy the eeprom contents from your s4 cluster?
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2013, 03:35:58 PM »

Heh, don't have the car handy, its in the shop.

I guess I'll snag one of the bins floating around nef.

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BTW I can't get vag-commander 3.6 working with my ross-tech cable, only 2.5..

anybody else have problems with 3.6?

split here
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3559.0
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2013, 04:32:28 PM »

Interesting. 00464 works (miles/mpg) but vcds says 4 is GB... right hand drive...

hopefully the left/right driver door inputs aren't switched (like trichards complained about).

I dont have my car handy so i can't test it.

still trying to get a NA S4 dump from a buddy, ill try that next.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2013, 04:54:04 PM »

Flash the a4 dump I posted, and recode the cluster for a 6 cylinder. I can't imagine there are many, if any, differences.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2013, 05:02:44 PM »

Nope. Doesn't like 00264.. same issue... doesn't like PM times, and date is messed up with month first.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2013, 01:19:07 AM »

Nope. Doesn't like 00264.. same issue... doesn't like PM times, and date is messed up with month first.
You might want to ask berTTos because he is running an RS4 cluster.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2013, 12:29:09 AM »

Hi,
I would like to change the cluster of a S4 to a RS4 Cluster. Is it possible to simply change the eeprom of the cluster in order not to re-learn the keys? Is the eeprom identical regarding it's content between S4 and RS4?
many thanks in advance
br
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depends also on ECU type, which software number is the ecu?
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2013, 08:16:56 AM »

You might want to ask berTTos because he is running an RS4 cluster.

He pretty much said i'm boned; i have to use the 00464 coding.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 03:48:54 AM »

I received my used RS4 cluster yesterday and installed it in 5 minutes, and then used VAG Commander to copy my immo bin to the RS4 cluster from my old one so the immo light is not flashing anymore (it's a Euro car so it has immo) and the mileage is also synced. Thanks to ddillenger for the tip on re-flashing the cluster.
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