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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2012, 01:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Barks on July 02, 2012, 12:00:47 PM
I think it is sold a Linear DBW throttle.....

Me then.... Grin
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2012, 05:10:12 AM »
Yeah probally is then Smiley

I tried to make it linear from 2500 - 6500 rpm, missing the first lower 3 points in each RPM range.

Must have cocked something up as it seemed to increase the idle to 2000rpm!! Smiley

Anyone fancy posting a map up??
 
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2012, 03:13:53 PM »
post your map up I will do a quick basic one as a starting point for you.

Nick
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 04:15:06 PM »
Here's what I use on my 2.7T linear throttle files. Road racers like it, drag racers hate it. Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2012, 04:51:22 AM »
Quote from: nokiafix on July 03, 2012, 03:13:53 PM
post your map up I will do a quick basic one as a starting point for you.

Nick

Cheer Nick, will do when I get home
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2012, 04:51:59 AM »
Quote from: robin on July 03, 2012, 04:15:06 PM
Here's what I use on my 2.7T linear throttle files. Road racers like it, drag racers hate it. Smiley

Thanks very much, I will have a look
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2012, 05:20:36 AM »
Quote from: Barks on July 02, 2012, 12:05:41 PM
I will have a look at just making it linear after around 2000 - 2500 RPM, just as a tester

lupo's one below for ref.
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2012, 05:47:21 AM »
In any ecu, you can change
KFPED
KFPEDL
KFVPDKSD
KFVPDKSE
KFMSNWDK
KFWDKSMX
NMXDAEF
to make pedal more "aggressive"
You have to change and the KFMIRL to "ask" for more pressure...
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2012, 11:40:39 AM »
Hello,

This is the standard KFPED on a 1.8T CB ECU.

RPM Across the Top
%PED down the side

0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00
20.89   10.76   3.16   1.84   1.82   1.42   1.40   1.40   0.96   0.92   0.86   0.69
30.97   18.23   7.99   4.79   4.36   3.90   3.50   2.72   2.30   1.89   1.61   1.89
41.79   30.56   19.64   12.81   12.07   11.14   9.89   7.15   5.85   4.91   4.42   4.45
53.88   41.32   29.27   20.56   19.18   18.50   17.12   12.43   10.87   8.96   8.43   7.81
66.66   55.15   42.04   28.92   27.16   26.40   24.95   19.09   17.32   15.23   14.48   13.83
77.90   66.38   52.49   38.29   35.87   34.85   33.84   27.98   27.11   25.15   23.70   22.38
86.26   76.88   63.15   48.82   46.04   45.89   45.01   39.54   39.02   36.54   34.18   32.78
91.98   84.77   73.04   59.74   56.94   57.52   56.75   52.75   52.21   50.29   47.83   46.27
96.13   91.86   83.36   72.01   68.98   70.42   69.25   64.95   64.36   61.02   58.91   57.30
98.90   96.03   91.01   83.39   81.39   83.07   82.28   78.38   78.45   75.26   72.99   71.04
100.01   98.94   96.91   92.79   91.63   92.51   92.30   88.79   89.04   85.65   83.51   81.55
100.01   99.57   99.10   97.40   96.56   97.51   97.26   94.53   94.77   93.47   92.24   90.70
100.01   99.99   99.96   99.87   99.80   99.73   99.23   98.05   97.98   97.78   96.83   96.56
100.01   100.00   99.99   99.97   99.95   99.93   99.83   99.44   99.43   99.36   98.90   98.94
100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01

Thanks
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2012, 01:08:23 AM »
Quote from: Barks on July 04, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
Hello,

This is the standard KFPED on a 1.8T CB ECU.

RPM Across the Top
%PED down the side

0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00   0.00
20.89   10.76   3.16   1.84   1.82   1.42   1.40   1.40   0.96   0.92   0.86   0.69
30.97   18.23   7.99   4.79   4.36   3.90   3.50   2.72   2.30   1.89   1.61   1.89
41.79   30.56   19.64   12.81   12.07   11.14   9.89   7.15   5.85   4.91   4.42   4.45
53.88   41.32   29.27   20.56   19.18   18.50   17.12   12.43   10.87   8.96   8.43   7.81
66.66   55.15   42.04   28.92   27.16   26.40   24.95   19.09   17.32   15.23   14.48   13.83
77.90   66.38   52.49   38.29   35.87   34.85   33.84   27.98   27.11   25.15   23.70   22.38
86.26   76.88   63.15   48.82   46.04   45.89   45.01   39.54   39.02   36.54   34.18   32.78
91.98   84.77   73.04   59.74   56.94   57.52   56.75   52.75   52.21   50.29   47.83   46.27
96.13   91.86   83.36   72.01   68.98   70.42   69.25   64.95   64.36   61.02   58.91   57.30
98.90   96.03   91.01   83.39   81.39   83.07   82.28   78.38   78.45   75.26   72.99   71.04
100.01   98.94   96.91   92.79   91.63   92.51   92.30   88.79   89.04   85.65   83.51   81.55
100.01   99.57   99.10   97.40   96.56   97.51   97.26   94.53   94.77   93.47   92.24   90.70
100.01   99.99   99.96   99.87   99.80   99.73   99.23   98.05   97.98   97.78   96.83   96.56
100.01   100.00   99.99   99.97   99.95   99.93   99.83   99.44   99.43   99.36   98.90   98.94
100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01   100.01

Thanks

aka lumpy and non-linear as hell
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2012, 01:45:18 AM »
Thanks for the maps, I will give the a whirl
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2013, 01:15:00 PM »
Quote from: SVSPORT on July 04, 2012, 05:47:21 AM
In any ecu, you can change
KFPED
KFPEDL
KFVPDKSD
KFVPDKSE
KFMSNWDK
KFWDKSMX
NMXDAEF
to make pedal more "aggressive"
You have to change and the KFMIRL to "ask" for more pressure...

NMXDAEF <- makes no sense to change as it is used only on emergency situations, when throttle plate is faulty
KFWDKSMX <- just set to FF and forget
KFMSNWDK (and inverse map KFWDKMSN) <- not sure what happens when we increase allowed air flow. I think we will get lean condition, but need someones input here
KFVPDKSE & KFVPDKSD <- are mystery maps to me. It would be real nice if someone would chime in on these maps and what affect they have on throttle plate.
KFPED <- THIS IS YOUR MAIN MAP TO INCREASE RESPONSE
KFPEDL <- this is only for faulty pedal
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2013, 02:41:45 PM »
IMO, none of those maps are what you want for a 'snappier' throttle response.

Aside from the throttle limit map, you want to focus on MDFAW.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 09:42:09 AM »
dont know why i didnt think of it before, but adjusting KFPED to be more linear might make my car a bit easier to drive in the snow.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 10:16:56 AM »
So if I'm reading Barks' map correctly from above, as rpm increases the target throttle position decreases with constant throttle input?  Why would you WANT that?
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