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Title: noob Project stage 1 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 11, 2022, 01:57:22 AM
Hi,I am looking to do a stage 1 and adjustment for E85. thank you in advance for the help

A4B5 2000AWT 1.8t 4B0906018R 0261206539 1037354801

0280158117
Injectors flow rate =      630   cc/min         


      KRKTE pump fuel =      0.05192345     

Ethanol content                       -->            75   %   
                 
Stoich value on Ethanol       -->            10.425     

      KRKTE ethanol =      0.0732158

TVUB
8v 3.2
10v 1.61
12v 1.155
14v 0.75
16v 0.540
I'm going up
pump 340l/h
0280158117
FRP 4BAR STOCK

I try to group everything here so as not to invade the forum with my noob questions


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: adam- on November 11, 2022, 12:38:41 PM
Read the wiki.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: Blazius on November 11, 2022, 02:07:49 PM
What ^ said. But LDRXN and other stuff. Go check it.

With E85 you need to change krkte and some injector tuning, but you can safely set timings to kfzwop usually.
Everything you asked is on the forum


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 12, 2022, 03:59:40 AM
yes of course
 KRKTE
TVUB
KVB
LDRXN

but for the boost there must be other maps to modify?
LDRXNZK....
I have a few maps on my xdf but the units and axes are not all good. Can someone look at it please?


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: TeknoFi on November 12, 2022, 05:30:01 AM
I don't think anyone bother help if you don't even tell me what your ecu part number is, now we have to dig it out from your binary. don't hide it.


Btw, your injectors don't go very far with ethanol. Increasing the power ends up very short with them if you want it to run on ethanol.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 12, 2022, 05:56:25 AM
thank you
I modified with ecu number.630cc are too small for e85 and a bit more boost?
I have the stock K03 to remain reliable how much can I put 0.8 /0.9 bars in it?


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: TeknoFi on November 12, 2022, 08:49:04 PM
thank you
I modified with ecu number.630cc are too small for e85 and a bit more boost?
I have the stock K03 to remain reliable how much can I put 0.8 /0.9 bars in it?

ah nevermind i read injectors number wrong. They're fine.

I updated your XDF in another thread. (http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=21116.msg156726#msg156726)


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 13, 2022, 12:13:55 AM
thank you very much TeKnoFi.
LDRXNZK can remain original? is it protection? does it lower the pressure in the event of a blow?


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 13, 2022, 12:50:11 AM
I admit my first reading of the ecu went well in 7 minutes. but I worry a little more about the writing. because I need it to go to work  :-\. maybe I should buy one backup ecu at 100 euros? because given my level I have a lot of log tests and adjustments to do. if the ecu crashes it's easy to put back in original boot mode? by obd

and for the cold start with E85. where should I start looking?
is there a map for the warmup? ???

thank


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: adam- on November 13, 2022, 03:42:43 AM
Yes, get a spare.  Learn how to bootmode and do it before you need it.

Yes, there are warmup maps.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: TeknoFi on November 13, 2022, 05:07:59 AM
but I worry a little more about the writing. because I need it to go to work  :-\. maybe I should buy one backup ecu at 100 euros? because given my level I have a lot of log tests and adjustments to do. if the ecu crashes it's easy to put back in original boot mode? by obd


If you are going to do lot of writing (like me), consider doing permanent wiring the ecu with "switchable" boot mode. So that boot mode can be turned on at any time while ecu is attached in the car. I made a small hole through the ecu shell and sealed it, so whenever I want I can get the ecu into boot mode and do a repair via obd if normal writing fails (common with mpps  :-X)


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 13, 2022, 05:46:24 AM
I'm interested, I thought the bootmode was as simple as reading with nefmoto since there is the option. how does it work? soldering to do? ???


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 13, 2022, 07:31:34 AM
the software version must absolutely match?
I have: 1037354801
can i clone on
1037354735?
by obd is it possible?
the ecu for sale on ebay not always the software number


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: Blazius on November 13, 2022, 05:12:32 PM
Same bootrom version and pcb design files can be crossflashed without any issues. Pretty much anything but please dont make me look up all the info.
Post the whole output from me7check of bins..

It looks like that is even the same ecu so one of the softs is newer so tldr you can. Dont forget about your eeprom


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 14, 2022, 06:10:43 AM
hi,I ordered a spare ecu. how do you read the eprom ecu? I understood that it is necessary to be in bootmode (pin 24 to the mass or by obd which software?) for the moment I manage to read the eprom cluster with vag commander. I equipped myself with me7eeprom me7_95040
but I am far from having read everything and understood everything. I have plenty to do


sorry for my google translate


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: TeknoFi on November 14, 2022, 09:14:41 AM
hi,I ordered a spare ecu. how do you read the eprom ecu? I understood that it is necessary to be in bootmode (pin 24 to the mass or by obd which software?) for the moment I manage to read the eprom cluster with vag commander. I equipped myself with me7eeprom me7_95040
but I am far from having read everything and understood everything. I have plenty to do


sorry for my google translate

correct, put ecu in bootmode (solder or wire to chip pin->gnd) and then connect with me7eeprom program (works with ft232rl cable).



Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 14, 2022, 09:28:13 AM
ok thank you. for a "switchable" version a switch outside the ecu? I read 10seconds to ground with contact on. does this erase the flash? no other solution to clone? me7eprom works in cmd too?


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 14, 2022, 09:38:14 AM
I'm going to wait to receive the backup ecu. No risk of immo blocking if I swap my stock/backup ecu and put the stock back on afterwards to read and check the software number and watch the flash.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: TeknoFi on November 14, 2022, 10:14:48 AM
ok thank you. for a "switchable" version a switch outside the ecu? I read 10seconds to ground with contact on. does this erase the flash? no other solution to clone? me7eprom works in cmd too?

I brought both the gnd and bootmode wire outside the ecu. I didn't put a switch but I plugged the wire ends and when I need boot mode, I remove the plugs and connect the wires together.

bootmode is not needed for binary read, but eeprom read it is needed as far as i know. Does not erase flash.

Me7eprom works in windows cmd only.



Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 14, 2022, 10:35:12 AM
just tried reading eprom ecu not working by vag commander1.4/2.5 yet there is option with choice of ecu me7.1 7.5...
probably because of the bootmode ???


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: TeknoFi on November 14, 2022, 10:51:19 AM
vag commander

that is tool for instrument cluster, not ecu... you are reading ecu eeprom, not instrument.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on November 14, 2022, 11:47:04 AM
there are the 2 cluster eprom reading it works but not the ecu eprom reading and there is also flash reading/writing


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on January 02, 2023, 08:48:39 AM
Hi
I am progressing slowly but surely on my little project. I now have a 2nd ecu that I cloned. I saw that I am missing some maps if someone can help me that would be cool:
TEMIN
FKSTT
FNSSM


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on January 15, 2023, 12:52:27 AM
Same bootrom version and pcb design files can be crossflashed without any issues. Pretty much anything but please dont make me look up all the info.
Post the whole output from me7check of bins..

It looks like that is even the same ecu so one of the softs is newer so tldr you can. Dont forget about your eeprom


is it possible to flash 4B0906018CG on 4B0906018R?
or another?
of course keeping my flash eprom and set ESKONF.
thank you

ME7Check v1.12 (c) mki, 06/2004-05/2012
Checking file 4B0906018R.bin (size=1048576)
Reading Version Strings...
-> Bootrom Version = 05.12
-> EPK = 40/1/ME7.5/5/4016.31//24b/Dst03o/300500//

-> Contents of ECUID data table:
   - '0261206539'         (SSECUHN)
   - '1037354801'         (SSECUSN)
   - '4B0906018R  '       (VAG part number)
   - '0003'               (VAG sw number)
   - '1.8L R4/5VT     '   (engine id)
-> Contents of ECUID data table:
   - 'HW_MAN004'

-> No errors found. File is OK.

ME7Check v1.12 (c) mki, 06/2004-05/2012
Checking file Audi-A4-1,8T-AWT-4B0906018CG-0261207215-360306saiOFF.bin (size=104
8576)
Reading Version Strings...
-> Bootrom Version = 05.12
-> EPK = 40/1/ME7.5/5/4016.31//24b/Dst02o/290900//

-> Contents of ECUID data table:
   - '0261207215'         (SSECUHN)
   - '1037360306'         (SSECUSN)
   - '4B0906018CG '       (VAG part number)
   - '0002'               (VAG sw number)
   - '1.8L R4/5VT     '   (engine id)
-> Contents of ECUID data table:
   - 'HW_MAN004'

-> No errors found. File is OK.   *********************









Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: fknbrkn on January 15, 2023, 01:04:41 AM
Why you just didnt try that? 10mins deal if you have bootmode in case od a failure


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: mdz on January 15, 2023, 01:52:56 AM
There's fully defined 018CA floating around here.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on January 15, 2023, 03:20:21 AM
I tried 018CG does not start, I want to know why? 018r is in a4 b5 2000/018CG a4 b5 2001 . same engine. a quattro file will prevent it from starting on traction? different EPK numbers?

yes I can try all the files that are close to 018R and tell you which ones work. but I would like to understand what makes it not work software?hardware numbers? the file?

 indeed there is a map pack 018CA on the forum and the CA file seems to correspond to 018R.

he wrote:
"Have fun guys, the 018CA.bin file works great on the 018CG ecu too. I use it myself.

-> Bootrom Version = 05.12
->EPK=42/1/ME7.5/331/4518.10//24b/Dst03o/300500/
-> Contents of ECUID data table:
   - '0261206917' (SECECUHN)
   - '0000000000' (SSECUSN)
   - '4B0906018CA' (VAG part number)
   - 'X003' (VAG sw number)
   - 'X24b803o.hex' (engine id)
-> Contents of ECUID data table:
   - 'HW_MAN004'   

            Dst03o/300500 as 018R


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on January 16, 2023, 02:08:07 PM
018CA engine starts 8)


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: terminator on January 16, 2023, 04:11:21 PM
I tried 018CG does not start, I want to know why?

I assume the internal ROM is different.


Title: Re: looking for help for Project baby stage 1 and E85 1.8t
Post by: JeanAwt on January 18, 2023, 01:36:52 PM
I wonder if my LAMFA 1CED9 axis addresses are correct. rpm ok factor 0.007813 but load % 1CECD factor: 0.003052.
 I have 160/03/40/80/120. how to restore order? in 6x15 50/60/70/80/90/97.5?
I have to set LAMFA_COLAXIS
LAMFA_ROWAXIS? thank