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« on: August 17, 2023, 11:21:57 AM »

Hello.
I'm having trouble with my 1.8T APP project. The car cuts throttle in every gear around 5500-6000 rpm range and i can't find out what's the problem.
The setup:

ECU: 06A906032S
K04-001 turbo
Stock Intercooler
Custom 70mm Downpipe with 60mm catless exhaust system
S3 BAM injectors 3bar FPR
265LPH fuel pump

The problem occurd after I installed the exhaust system 2 years ago. I first thought mechanical problems, checked everything(boost leak test, vacum leak, N75, FPR, new intercooler, new turbo, new injectors, new fuel pump, 2 year old brand new bosch MAF,). The car was overboosting so I made the MBC-N75 parallel from s4wiki, the overboost disapeared but the throttle cut was still there.
In the weeks I threw the MBC out and tried tuning the KFLDIMX and turning the duty cycle down. It worked. The overboost disapeard but the throttle cut still a thing and I can't find the source of the problem. I tried playing with KFMIOP/KFMIRL maps but with no luck.
I attach my files. Don't mind me if you see stupid things, I'm a beginner to ME7 world. Cheesy
I hope somebody can help me, I couldn't figure it out for 2 years now and it's really pissing me off.
The goal is to boost about 1 bar and to not throttle cut.
So my question is, what could causing the problem?
Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2023, 02:39:54 PM »

Those ME7 logs are pretty useless.

Get a full single gear pull from 3k to redline.

You're literally missing one of the most important variables: actual boost.

rip out the parallel mbc. Its junk.

If you need one, your tune is bad, expect nothing but problems.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2023, 09:54:08 PM »

Thanks for the reply. I'll do another log today.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2023, 10:03:16 PM »

Reminder: if you need the MBC to prevent overboosting, there is no point in going further w/o a retune.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2023, 10:06:19 PM »

The MBC is out. I retuned the PID and it's working fine but the throttle cut still hits.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2023, 07:02:44 AM »

Those ME7 logs are pretty useless.

You're literally missing one of the most important variables: actual boost.


I've made new logs. The first with 3rd gear full throttle till the cut hit.
The second is the same but in 2nd gear.
I hope these are better.
Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2023, 07:50:43 PM »

still missing actual boost pvdkds_w
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2023, 07:53:09 PM »

Your requested load is really screwed up.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2023, 07:57:51 PM »

Look at miasrl_w

https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Disable_ASR

Press your ESP button before logging
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2023, 01:08:13 AM »

Thanks. Okay I'll do that.

My requested load is way lower than my specified. It starts dropping from 5200rpm and goes down to 140% where the cut happens around 5800-6000rpm.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2023, 06:37:10 AM »

Here are my new logs.
Added the actual boost finally. 3rd and 2nd gear pull, ESP off for both.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2023, 11:59:46 AM »

I see no throttle cut in either pull
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2023, 12:09:24 PM »

It's like hitting a wall. The car stops pulling and the rpm dropping slowly at full throttle.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2023, 12:15:05 PM »

If I let off the gas than push the throttle again, the car starts to move again until that 5800rpm range, then the same happens. I don't know what's happening.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2023, 12:18:29 PM »

You have n75 or wg failure, massive boost leak, your DV's are failing, or your inlet hose is collapsing. Absolutely a mechanical issue, not your tune as far as I can tell.
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