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« on: February 01, 2012, 09:24:17 AM »
Hey all!
So the long story short is that I CAN NOT hit even 1 bar with K03 no matter what I do... I've tried logging today and results are attached (please open them in ecuxplot). AFR looks OK. No knock, no retard. Wastegate duty cycle is interesting... at WOT it doesn't go lower than ~50%. Also desired boost maxes out at 0,72 (how the hell it is desired only 0.72 when my LDRXN whole map is 200s and KFMIRL maxes out at 195???). Also Lambda for part protection at WOT in second and third gear enriching mixture upto 0.82 (but with LAMFA I already enrich mixture to that at wot). Also ChargeLimitEngineProtection is going down at WOT...

Please help! Smiley

P.S> logs are done from complete stop to third gear (as you can see by RPM climb)
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 11:56:30 PM »
Can't tell a whole lot from your log. It is not LDRXN or any part of LDRLMX (i.e. ldrlms, ldrlts) as rlmax is not limiting rlsol.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 04:04:59 AM »
Quote from: phila_dot on February 01, 2012, 11:56:30 PM
Can't tell a whole lot from your log. It is not LDRXN or any part of LDRLMX (i.e. ldrlms, ldrlts) as rlmax is not limiting rlsol.

I could log other variables, just tell me which  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 05:35:24 PM »
"hitting"? Forget about logging actual boost if you can't even get *requested* boost anywhere useful.

Please use the filter feature of ECUxPlot, it is impossible to see what is going on Sad

Do a FULL WOT 3rd (or 2nd gear) pull from low rpm to high rpm.

make sure to log gear and accelerator pedal position, and graph using RPM as the x axis, not time.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 05:44:16 PM »
Did you modify KFLDHBN?
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 06:36:42 PM »
Quote from: nyet on February 02, 2012, 05:44:16 PM
Did you modify KFLDHBN?

It's not KFLDHBN as rlsol isn't being limited by rlmax.

rlmax does follow ldrlts for part of the log but it remains above 180 specified load.

I think that it's KFMIOP limiting KFMIRL via mimax_w -> mifa_w/mifal_w -> milsol_w.

His KFMIOP load axis maxes out at 145 with a max torque value of 45.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 10:12:37 AM »
Quote from: nyet on February 02, 2012, 05:35:24 PM
"hitting"? Forget about logging actual boost if you can't even get *requested* boost anywhere useful.

Please use the filter feature of ECUxPlot, it is impossible to see what is going on Sad

Do a FULL WOT 3rd (or 2nd gear) pull from low rpm to high rpm.

make sure to log gear and accelerator pedal position, and graph using RPM as the x axis, not time.



Ok, gonna do full pull and log acc pedal, gear, rpm. What else to log? requested boost? wastegate dc? afr? Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 10:16:07 AM »
Quote from: masterj on February 03, 2012, 10:12:37 AM
Ok, gonna do full pull and log acc pedal, gear, rpm. What else to log? requested boost? wastegate dc? afr? Wink

Log these:
mimax_w, mifa_w, mifal_w, milsol_w
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 10:17:53 AM »
Quote from: nyet on February 02, 2012, 05:44:16 PM
Did you modify KFLDHBN?

Yes, I even tried to up KFLDHBN a little bit... Still no result
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 10:18:43 AM »
Quote from: phila_dot on February 03, 2012, 10:16:07 AM
Log these:
mimax_w, mifa_w, mifal_w, milsol_w

OK, gonna be back with the results tommorow Smiley

P.S> Question about KFKHFM map. How does it fix maf data? If for example coefficient is 1.1000 will ecu enrich mixture or make it leaner?  Undecided
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 10:19:29 AM »
An IOP that is too low will NOT result in limiting req load...
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 10:25:06 AM »
Quote from: nyet on February 03, 2012, 10:19:29 AM
An IOP that is too low will NOT result in limiting req load...

BTW: My kfmiop was originally with the X axis 145 maxed
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 10:30:30 AM »
Quote from: phila_dot on February 03, 2012, 10:16:07 AM
Log these:
mimax_w, mifa_w, mifal_w, milsol_w

My me7logger couldn't find mimax_w, mifal_w, milsol_w (only mifa_w is there) Could someone help me out with finding them? I've attached bin file
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 10:39:40 AM »
Quote from: masterj on February 03, 2012, 10:30:30 AM
My me7logger couldn't find mimax_w, mifal_w, milsol_w (only mifa_w is there) Could someone help me out with finding them? I've attached bin file

How about MISOPL1_W?

Quote from: nyet on February 03, 2012, 10:19:29 AM
An IOP that is too low will NOT result in limiting req load...

Take a look at the relationship of the variables I posted starting in MDMAX.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 11:03:18 AM »
Quote from: phila_dot on February 03, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
How about MISOPL1_W?

Take a look at the relationship of the variables I posted starting in MDMAX.

misopl1_w is there and also misol_w but not milsol_W

Everything i have starting with mi...

;miasrl_w         ;{RequestedTorqueTractionControl}   ; {Indiziertes Soll-Motormoment ASR für langsamen Eingriff}
;miasrs_w         ;{}                                 ; {Indiziertes Soll-Motormoment ASR für schnellen Eingriff}
;miext_w          ;{}                                 ; {von außen (ASR, GS, usw.) angefordertes indiziertes Motormoment}
mifa_w           ;{}                                 ; {indiziertes Motormoment Fahrerwunsch}
;mifab_w          ;{}                                 ; {Begrenztes indiziertes Fahrerwunschmoment}
;miges_w          ;{}                                 ; {Indiziertes Soll-Motormoment für Getriebeschutz}
;migs_w           ;{}                                 ; {Indiziertes Soll-Motormoment GS für schnellen Eingriff}
;miist_w          ;{}                                 ; {indiziertes Motormoment Hochdruckphase Istwert}
misol_w          ;{}                                 ; {Indiziertes resultierendes Sollmoment}
misopl1_w        ;{}                                 ; {Solluftmoment, rückgerechnet auf Lambda=1 und zwopt}
;miszul_w 
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