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Hhopefully I don't make this too long but long story short, I totaled by car and found a cheap car to put my big turbo into. Problem one it has no key or cluster. Not a hot way to start my build. I got a key cut but not programmed. Got the car back together and installed an s4 cluster in and deleted the immo from my ecu. Car started up but I have no blinkers and radio doesnt turn off when the key is removed. Is this because the cluster needs to be programmed to the car and the key? Or is this a wiring issue?

I turned my immobilizer back on and obviously the car starts then dies. So i pulled the eeprom bin and found the skc. Now I go into VCDS and trying to login to instrument cluster and it freezes up and fails? why is this?

I can't even program the key because it won't except my login urgh

Enable immobilizer
Retrieve login codes from cluster and ecu
Adapt ecu to cluster
Match key to cluster

You can get the pin from the cluster using Carprog, Vagtacho, Vag Commander, or possibly with any dumb cable using VAG EEPROM Programmer. I dont think pin from dump on the encrypted clusters is possible....or at least I've never done it.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9804.0title=

ive used bothe supposibly skc from each file and vcds denies both. I pulled my eeprom and found the skc and it still locks vcds up and fails!
95040 pulled from ecu

so you see I'm not crazy

how have you not figured out how to do a screen capture with windows yet?  ctrl + PrtScn -> paste into paint -> crop -> resize -> save.

Well now I know. Had no reason to take a screen shot until now I guess. My question is how have I not successfully paired the ecu? I have everything and I've followed all the instructions.

key matching http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_III_Key_Matching_(Cluster)
or http://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-s8-d2-platform-discussion-8/how-pull-your-immo-code-pair-new-key-vcds-lite-2001-s8-2873134/

cluster pairing http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/558982-DIY-How-to-swap-instrument-clusters-in-cars-with-Immobilizer
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9804.0title=
http://www.audizine.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-467760.html

I've done my research, The only thing I can think is I need to program the cluster with a new file?
What am I missing?

youre missing knowing how to do it correctly.

Well that's true as I'm failing some how. Can anybody see my mistake? Do I need to take a video of the whole process? I want this bad!
Also the miles on the cluster show 01-1 or something along those lines? I havent touched miles or anything?

I looked up on how to take a screen shot with a mac book air on windows 7. The keyboard drivers are weird so this is why I can't actually press prnt screen button on my keyboard as there is no such thing

Find VAG EEPROM Programmer (MHHauto or wherever) and see if it comes up with a different pin....I dont trust vagcommander on RB4 clusters...especially when it comes up with a 5 digit pin for a B6. Vagcommander likes to brick those clusters. If you post the cluster part number, I'll see if I have a virgin BIN to flash and learn like new.

And did you enable IMMO, log into ECU, adapt immo/vehicle data BEFORE logging into cluster?

I enabled immo yes, but log into ecu and adapt immo/vehcile data? How do you do that?

I pulled this file from the s4 cluster, I will go outside and get the part number in a sec

you have posted this file 3 times now and its as useless now as it was the first time.

your cluster pin is wrong. you are missing a very important step.

Need to set the cluster to NEWMODE and get an unencrypted dumb, then set it back to ADAPTED before you can continue.

This is a 5 minute procedure start to finish.

i might have pasted this but now I see where I went wrong.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_III_Immobilizer_Swapping_(Instrument_Cluster)

I used got both skc's using vageeprom, which is an awesome program.
I finally was able to log in. My login was wrong so vag commander sucks is what I found out. So I got eveyrthing programed correctly until I got to the key part. Turns out this key doesnt even work!! urgh. So on that topic Can I buy a b7 key and have it cut to work with my car? Or should I just stick with the b6 a4 key? Thanks for the help guys. It was right infront of me I just had to dig deeper

Vagcommander ruins things. I stopped using it....a few times I backed up files, and realized that the offsets were off on the read when it was already too late and I was stuck searching for ori's. It 99999999's TT clusters....yuck.

But what did the cluster pin end up being for that dump?

The dealership is closed here, is it possible to set an old key to virgin state for programming? Or do I need to be patient and wait till tomorrow?

Once a transponder is matched to an immo ID it can only be rematched to the same ID. Never a new one.

some can be unlocked though if youre lucky.

transponders are reusable if they were matched to this car before, so even if you swap cluster you can just reuse them and learn them according to rosstech immo3 procedure

Key is programed!! Has anyone swapped a s4 cluster in before? when I remove the key the radio doesnt turn off now?

adaptation channels 60, 61, 62 are powertrain, infotainment, and global CAN configurations. Make sure they match the old cluster.

Thank you! I will update you guys tomorrow. Hopefully I can fix it or else all this work was uselss, but I have faith.

after diagnosing for hours I have found the culprit!! The ccm comfort control module was corroded from the seal leaking at the ecu! Going to to and adapt the new cluster as my blinker blink but not on the dash urgh 

I'm still stumped! I login and then I go to adaptation in the cluster to match the Ecu. I program it to the old skc from the Ecu, but it says not okay when I press test?
The Ecu Immo is turned on and the login (skc) is the same. I'm trying to program the cluster to the Ecu. I then check the Immo id on the cluster and it doesn't match the Ecu. The Ecu turns out is the original that was in the car from factory. This is making it so I can't match the key to the cluster to stop the flashers from blinking. I even put the cluster in virgin mode with vag eeprogrammer. Where am I going wrong? I read instructions and did my research. The only thing I could think of is 1: I need to flash the cluster with another file to possibly clear up this error or 2: get a new seed key reader. The part that is around the ignition cylinder that reads the chip in the key. Or am I way off?

Solved!
took cluster out of virgin mode for some reason and programed key, after programming key on the same key cycle program ecu to cluster. Weird but it worked for me.

So now its showing mileage and immo is on? no strange messages in cluster, no hazards lights on?

Yes safe has disappeared, blinkers work, key works perfect and unlocks doors fine. Only thing is when I get to a quarter tank I'm on empty! But I think the guy that owned my car improperly installed fuel pump or something.