NefMoto

 :-[How do you know what chip you have in your ecu?
I'm trying to read an 07 jetta eeprom but I dont know what chip is in there.
The tool shows 95040, 95080, 95160,and 95p08
I could go off of what people state about my ecu as it's 95p08 but I want to verify.

what I'm working with
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3762.0

program is attached below

this is what I'm doing with no success
me714.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b19200 95p08



07k 906 032t
Me7.1.1
2.5l rabbit 5 speed

Look at the eeprom. The manufacturer and model are etched into it.

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG! I'm going insane trying to read this immo!
07k906032t
me7.1.1
07 rabbit
I've tried to search the chip that's in it but that has lead to no where http://search.datasheetcatalog.net/key/AM29F800BB-55

so I got desperate and tried every signle layout. yup I'm that desperate.
ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P8.2 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P2.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin



ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P8.2 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P2.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin


ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P8.2 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P2.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

How it it possible that every one states this
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Troy>ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bi
n
'ME7EEPROM.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\Troy>C:\Users\Troy\Desktop\ME7EEPROM.exe
ME7_EEPROM v1.40

Allows to program ME7 ECU's EEPROM.
This software needs a dumb serial to k-line cable for connection with the ecu.

Usage: me7EEPROM [-p <comport>] [-b <baudrate>] [--OBD | --bootmode <mem_type>]
[--CSpin Px.x] [-r | -w | -s] [<file name>]
 -p, --comport  COMPORT    Set COMPORT.
 -b, --baudrate BAUDRATE   Set BAUDRATE, default: 10400.
                           Allowed baud rates: 9600, 10400, 19200, 57600.
     --OBD                 Use this option to read the EEPROM over OBD port.
                           Currently, only read is supported in OBD mode.
     --bootmode MEM_TYPE   Use this option to program the EEPROM in boot mode.
                           Allowed memory types: [95040 | 95080 | 95160 | 95P08]
.
 -r, --read                Read EEPROM contents and save it to file.
 -w, --write               Write a file to EEPROM.
 -s, --screen              Displays EEPROM contents on the screen.
     --CSpin               Set the CPU chip select (CS) output. eg: P4.7
                           The following table shows all available ports with
                           its corresponding physical address.
                              Port   PortReg   DirControlReg
                              P2     0xFFC0    0xFFC2
                              P3     0xFFC4    0xFFC6
                              P4     0xFFC8    0xFFCA
                              P6     0xFFCC    0xFFCE
                              P7     0xFFD0    0xFFD2
                              P8     0xFFD4    0xFFD6
     --help                Display this help and exit.

Usage example:
   Read EEPROM over OBD port:         $ ME7_EEPROM --OBD -r -p 1 95040.bin
   Print EEPROM contents to srcreen:  $ ME7_EEPROM --OBD -p1 --screen
   Write file to EEPROM in bootmode:  $ ME7_EEPROM --bootmode 95040 -wp1 95040.b
in

It's free for hobby use.
This software is provided "as is", with NO WARRANTY.
email: agv.tuning@gmail.com

C:\Users\Troy>C:\Users\Troy\Desktop\ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7
-rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin
ME7_EEPROM v1.40
COM: 3, Baud Rate: 10400
Memory type: 95080, size: 1024
Chip Select pin: P4.7
Opening COM3 ... OK
Starting Boot_mode ... uC ID response 0xD5 ... OK
Sending Loader + MonitorCore ... MonitorCore successfully launched
Reading IDCHIP ... 0x1143. Not supported
FAIL. (error=0x11001)
Closing COM3

C:\Users\Troy>

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG! I'm going insane trying to read this immo!
I've tried to search the chip that's in it but that has lead to no where http://search.datasheetcatalog.net/key/AM29F800BB-55

so I got desperate and tried every signle layout. yup I'm that desperate.
ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P8.2 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P2.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin



ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P8.2 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P2.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95160.bin


ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P6.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P8.2 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95P08 --CSpin P2.3 -rp3 -b 10400 95P08.bin

How it it possible that every one states this
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Troy>ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bi
n
'ME7EEPROM.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\Troy>C:\Users\Troy\Desktop\ME7EEPROM.exe
ME7_EEPROM v1.40

Allows to program ME7 ECU's EEPROM.
This software needs a dumb serial to k-line cable for connection with the ecu.

Usage: me7EEPROM [-p <comport>] [-b <baudrate>] [--OBD | --bootmode <mem_type>]
[--CSpin Px.x] [-r | -w | -s] [<file name>]
 -p, --comport  COMPORT    Set COMPORT.
 -b, --baudrate BAUDRATE   Set BAUDRATE, default: 10400.
                           Allowed baud rates: 9600, 10400, 19200, 57600.
     --OBD                 Use this option to read the EEPROM over OBD port.
                           Currently, only read is supported in OBD mode.
     --bootmode MEM_TYPE   Use this option to program the EEPROM in boot mode.
                           Allowed memory types: [95040 | 95080 | 95160 | 95P08]
.
 -r, --read                Read EEPROM contents and save it to file.
 -w, --write               Write a file to EEPROM.
 -s, --screen              Displays EEPROM contents on the screen.
     --CSpin               Set the CPU chip select (CS) output. eg: P4.7
                           The following table shows all available ports with
                           its corresponding physical address.
                              Port   PortReg   DirControlReg
                              P2     0xFFC0    0xFFC2
                              P3     0xFFC4    0xFFC6
                              P4     0xFFC8    0xFFCA
                              P6     0xFFCC    0xFFCE
                              P7     0xFFD0    0xFFD2
                              P8     0xFFD4    0xFFD6
     --help                Display this help and exit.

Usage example:
   Read EEPROM over OBD port:         $ ME7_EEPROM --OBD -r -p 1 95040.bin
   Print EEPROM contents to srcreen:  $ ME7_EEPROM --OBD -p1 --screen
   Write file to EEPROM in bootmode:  $ ME7_EEPROM --bootmode 95040 -wp1 95040.b
in

It's free for hobby use.
This software is provided "as is", with NO WARRANTY.
email: agv.tuning@gmail.com

C:\Users\Troy>C:\Users\Troy\Desktop\ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7
-rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin
ME7_EEPROM v1.40
COM: 3, Baud Rate: 10400
Memory type: 95080, size: 1024
Chip Select pin: P4.7
Opening COM3 ... OK
Starting Boot_mode ... uC ID response 0xD5 ... OK
Sending Loader + MonitorCore ... MonitorCore successfully launched
Reading IDCHIP ... 0x1143. Not supported
FAIL. (error=0x11001)
Closing COM3

C:\Users\Troy>

0x1143 is 95160 iirc

That is not the EEPROM, that is the flash.

I've tried that layout yet it fails?

Wait... So unsupported because obviously it's not supported. Great! chasing my tale again.

What? Layout has nothing to do with EEPROM. That is the flash.


No. 95160 is supported just fine. You just have to specify it on the cmd line, not 95080

imo the utility really should use the chip id to decide on what kind of chip it is... sorta the whole point of a chip id.

0x1143 is not 95080.

The program really should use chipid to determine which eeprom to use, but sadly it does not.

It tried 95160 in every port and says the same thing. Unsupported?

I tried every combination and no go? Even with 95160 and trying different ports. It's going into bootmode fine. What am I doing wrong?

This one seemed to connect.

I remember a spyker and a long day of this a couple years back :P

Yep. I really wish the program was more user friendly... if I had time i'd make it a bit more smrts..

1) have it determine eeprom from id
2) add an option to try all (known) cs pins, possibly exhaustively, possibly with only known good chipid/cspin combinations.

I don't know how to do that? How would you do that? I actually tried doing it manual without the gui and still failed. Thanks for the quick reply also

buy a programmer. problem solved.

What? I would modify the source code to autodetect for you.

Not sure why you think the gui would help here.

Why haven't you tried

"ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin" with the correct eeprom type yet?

Just got home, time to test some things. Here are the results I get. The gui was to make sure I wasn't typing something incorrectly.

C:\Users\Troy\Desktop>ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400
95080.bin
ME7_EEPROM v1.40
COM: 3, Baud Rate: 10400
Memory type: 95080, size: 1024
Chip Select pin: P4.7
Opening COM3 ... OK
Starting Boot_mode ... uC ID response 0xD5 ... OK
Sending Loader + MonitorCore ... MonitorCore successfully launched
Reading IDCHIP ... 0x1143. Not supported
FAIL. (error=0x11001)
Closing COM3

As i already told you, 95080 is the wrong eeprom.

Are you really not figuring out what my earlier posts regarding detecting eeprom type from IdChip was all about?

Are you actually reading any of the posts I'm making?

this problem has already been discussed and solved.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1168.msg44996#msg44996

SMH no kidding. I've been telling him to use 95160 from the very start, but for some reason he keeps ignoring my posts and babbling about other stuff.

From the VERY first post, he's asking which eeprom type it is.

did you read the post? lol. it said it would not work because of chipID. his post says he patched it to accept it.

He keeps using 95080

As i keep posting over and over: 0x1143 is 95160 iirc

V1.40 will not work no matter what's in the command line on that ecu.

again though, did you read his post? he said it would not work originally. he said he patched it.

i feel like the pot is meeting the kettle here.

im guessing its because of st10 and not c167.

Yes. I went through this a while back.

at least someone gets it. lol.  ;)

I actually had a patched version of 1.40 that was finally able to do it (only via bootmode). I'll see if I can find it.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1168.msg44996#msg44996

this one is an st10

And i still don't see the output of the OP trying 95160, nor any post where says how above poster "patched" it.

Somebody should get the source and fix and publish. This is idiotic.

exactly. its st10. same chipid. didnt work originally because of chipid like he said.
then he said he patched it to work.

did you read and understand what his post said?

Too bad he didn't post the source OR what he did to patch it. Post edited above to fix unclear pronouns.

hi, im earth. nice to meet you.

lol

So what does the patch do?

judging by the context, im going to assume he patched it to work with st10 cpu.

It was only changing a few bytes in v 1.40. I'm no programmer, just followed instructions. I hope I can find it. I have to admit, I would have hot-air'd that mofo off by now, though.  :)

Uh. Well yes. But what, specifically?

Again, ridiculous that we don't have the source. This abandonware crap is getting old.

test clip works just fine on these. no bootmode. no chipid confusion.
and its on the backside too. quick and easy.

Do you need to power up the ecu? Ign on or off? A lot of the earlier ecu's I used to test clip seemed to need different conditions to get a good read/write. For me it was always hit or miss.

plug and go. i pretty much test clip everything.
i had a 95040 today though that would not accept a write. used gq4x to read protect/unprotect. 1 out of 3 sectors was protected. hit unlock, unlocked ok. then wrote ok. never encountered that before.

You must know magic...I gave up on test clips, because it was so unreliable for me.

24c02 is the only one i desolder. if im flashing and its already benched, ill boot write e2p.
if its only immo off, test clip. open, read/write. no need to save or open e2p file. edit in programmer screen and hit write. 2 minutes start > finish and its on to the next one.

These are your words
(Why haven't you tried

"ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95080 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 95080.bin" with the correct eeprom type yet?)

Then you tell me you (wrong)?
I'm just trying to follow instructions but I guess my comprehension skills are lacking.
Now I tried the layout you said to try and still same message. Everybody says whatever I type it the command line it will fail. Who do I listen to?

Was hoping to see the output of

ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400 eeprom.bin

to diagnose further.

If ST10 isn't supported w/o a patch, then this will fail as well.

I thought I would try a different computer just to rule that out.
Sorry for late response long day at work

\Desktop>ME7EEPROM.exe --bootmode 95160 --CSpin P4.7 -rp3 -b 10400
 eeprom.bin
ME7_EEPROM v1.40
COM: 3, Baud Rate: 10400
Memory type: 95160, size: 2048
Chip Select pin: P4.7
Opening COM3 ... OK
Starting Boot_mode ... uC ID response 0xD5 ... OK
Sending Loader + MonitorCore ... MonitorCore successfully launched
Reading IDCHIP ... 0x1143. Not supported
FAIL. (error=0x11001)
Closing COM3

Thanks

Hope somebody can find you that patch :(

I wish I could do it my self. It's never a good thing to rely on somebody. Thanks Nyet for the help and persistence so far. Is there anything I could try? If you shoot me test patches I'll try it out.

this.

Where can I get a programmer?

If i had the source code I would fix it :(

Let's get the source code? Who do we have to kill? ;D

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_dynamicIndex.asp

ArgDub

AWOL like the rest.

Another reason to always share source; if you abandon your shit it's increasingly useless.

You're going to have me mess up a perfectly good Ecu? Savage

Blame people who won't publish source :P

So did he lose the source code or not sharing? Because I will pay for it and leak it so people like me can delete this Immo and get on with my day.

buy a damn programmer guy. that will let you get on with your day.

..

I still respect all the hard work you have put into me7eeprom and wanted to thank you for the great program. Honestly it has saved my car personally.

I'm going to take a page from nyet's book here and say, did you read any of the posts?
me and vwaudiguy had a whole conversation about how there is no soldering involved.

Yes I did. You can do a test clip but I kept reading and people said they couldn't get them to work sometimes. Why pay $$$ for something that is going to work 50% of the time. I need 100%

they work 100% of the time.

Don't fight getting a GQ4x. It's going to be necessary in the future. I use mine fairly regularly.

?

When you heat the chip up and remove it do you clean the pad and reapply solder or do you just heat up the old solder and stick the chip on it?