Title: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 12, 2016, 08:41:34 AM hi guys im having some issues with my N75 its set for 97.5 but after a long WOT it starts having fluctuation
Time,engine, load,WastegateDuty,WastegateDutyCycleAfterLin WastegateDutyCycleBeforeLin speed 1.2 2120 73.5234 0 0 -0.75 1.25 2120 73.4297 0 0 -0.9 1.3 2120 73.8281 0 0 -0.6 1.35 2120 73.5469 0 0 -0.6 1.4 2120 73.6641 0 0 -0.6 1.45 2160 74.6719 0 0 -0.3 1.5 2160 75.7734 0 0 -0.3 1.55 2160 75.9844 0 0 -0.3 1.6 2160 76.2891 0 0 -0.3 1.65 2160 76.4531 0 0 -0.45 1.7 2160 76.6406 0 0 -0.45 1.75 2160 76.7109 0 0 -0.3 1.8 2160 76.8047 0 0 -0.15 1.85 2160 77.2969 77.3438 77.425 74.895 1.9 2160 81.4453 94.9219 97.5 163.835 1.95 2160 99.4453 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2 2160 107.883 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.05 2160 113.648 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.1 2200 117.188 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.15 2200 119.016 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.2 2200 121.57 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.25 2200 123.633 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.3 2200 126.773 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.35 2200 129.375 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.4 2200 131.695 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.45 2240 134.484 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.5 2240 138.117 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.55 2240 140.555 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.6 2240 142.898 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.65 2240 145.805 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.7 2280 149.109 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.75 2280 152.719 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.8 2280 155.789 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.85 2280 158.32 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.9 2280 160.359 94.9219 97.5 163.835 2.95 2320 161.813 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3 2320 164.016 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.05 2320 166.664 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.1 2320 168.867 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.15 2320 170.508 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.2 2360 172.477 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.25 2360 174.375 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.3 2400 176.672 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.35 2400 179.555 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.4 2400 181.617 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.45 2400 183.094 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.5 2440 183.984 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.55 2440 186.773 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.6 2440 188.906 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.65 2440 190.664 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.7 2480 190.828 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.75 2480 190.617 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.8 2480 190.594 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.85 2520 190.547 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.9 2520 190.453 94.9219 97.5 163.835 3.95 2520 190.406 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4 2560 190.313 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.05 2560 190.266 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.1 2600 190.266 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.15 2600 190.148 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.2 2560 190.195 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.25 2600 190.078 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.3 2640 190.664 94.9219 97.5 163.835 4.35 2640 190.594 94.9219 97.5 159.095 4.4 2640 190.523 94.9219 97.5 160.3 4.45 2680 190.336 94.9219 97.5 161.75 4.5 2680 190.219 94.9219 97.5 154.71 4.55 2680 190.148 94.9219 97.5 152.01 4.6 2720 190.195 94.9219 97.5 153.55 4.65 2720 190.055 94.9219 97.5 133.68 4.7 2760 190.242 94.9219 97.5 144.73 4.75 2760 189.938 94.9219 97.5 123.74 4.8 2760 189.914 94.9219 97.5 122.5 4.85 2760 189.797 94.9219 97.5 126.345 4.9 2800 189.727 94.9219 97.5 125.705 4.95 2800 189.68 94.9219 97.5 117.395 5 2840 189.633 94.9219 97.5 112.98 5.05 2840 189.633 94.9219 97.5 108.34 5.1 2840 189.586 94.9219 97.5 124.965 5.15 2840 189.445 94.9219 97.5 106.05 5.2 2880 189.914 94.9219 97.5 108.565 5.25 2880 189.727 94.9219 97.5 97.91 5.3 2920 189.797 94.9219 97.5 108.535 5.35 2920 189.656 94.9219 97.5 97.84 5.4 2920 189.563 94.9219 97.5 98.195 5.45 2960 189.539 94.9219 97.5 96.065 5.5 2960 189.516 94.9219 96.565 94.4 5.55 3000 189.445 82.8125 83.055 85.035 5.6 3000 189.773 93.3594 93.445 92.24 5.65 3040 190.289 87.8906 87.965 88.385 5.7 3040 190.547 85.5469 85.69 86.805 5.75 3040 190.969 80.8594 80.81 83.445 5.8 3040 191.414 75.3906 75.585 78.21 5.85 3080 191.836 78.125 78.385 81.75 5.9 3080 192.211 78.5156 78.395 81.75 5.95 3120 192.609 78.5156 78.405 81.75 6 3120 193.5 77.7344 77.995 81.45 6.05 3160 193.734 78.5156 78.505 81.81 6.1 3160 194.508 78.5156 78.44 81.71 6.15 3160 194.719 77.7344 77.775 81.26 6.2 3200 195.445 77.3438 77.545 81.095 6.25 3200 195.633 77.7344 77.715 81.23 6.3 3240 195.727 77.7344 77.885 81.325 6.35 3240 196.242 78.125 78.32 81.625 6.4 3240 196.43 78.9063 79.16 82.195 6.45 3280 196.945 80.0781 80.095 82.82 6.5 3280 197.438 94.9219 97.5 104.62 6.55 3280 197.953 92.9688 92.82 91.735 6.6 3320 197.906 94.9219 96.075 94.01 6.65 3320 198.586 80.4688 80.55 83.155 6.7 3360 198.844 75.3906 75.365 76.405 6.75 3360 199.43 79.6875 79.905 82.66 6.8 3360 200.18 79.6875 79.655 82.51 6.85 3400 200.625 78.5156 78.75 81.83 6.9 3400 201.516 77.7344 77.77 81.13 6.95 3440 201.305 76.9531 76.94 80.57 7 3440 202.148 76.1719 76.205 79.975 7.05 3440 202.055 75.7813 76.005 79.08 7.1 3440 202.617 75.7813 75.98 78.87 7.15 3480 202.547 75.7813 75.885 78.445 7.2 3480 203.531 75.7813 75.9 78.445 7.25 3520 203.625 75.7813 75.915 78.545 7.3 3520 203.367 76.1719 76.06 79.145 7.35 3560 203.367 76.1719 76.24 79.995 7.4 3520 203.227 94.9219 97.5 99.455 7.45 3560 203.156 94.9219 97.5 107.065 7.5 3560 203.156 94.9219 97.5 101.685 7.55 3600 202.945 77.3438 77.255 80.74 7.6 3600 203.086 86.3281 86.215 87.05 7.65 3600 203.016 74.2188 74.25 71.1 7.7 3640 203.016 74.2188 74.25 71.1 7.75 3640 202.617 80.0781 80 82.66 7.8 3680 202.617 79.6875 79.585 82.36 7.85 3680 202.5 78.9063 79.09 82.01 7.9 3680 202.406 78.9063 78.675 81.71 7.95 3720 202.195 77.3438 77.6 80.96 8 3720 202.195 77.3438 77.19 80.66 8.05 3720 201.82 76.5625 76.615 80.26 8.1 3720 201.703 76.1719 76.285 80.01 8.15 3760 201.469 76.5625 76.7 80.31 8.2 3760 201.469 76.9531 77.03 80.56 8.25 3800 201.188 77.7344 77.945 81.21 8.3 3800 201.188 79.6875 79.69 82.46 8.35 3800 201 94.9219 97.5 115.52 8.4 3840 200.953 94.9219 97.5 115.52 8.45 3840 199.758 94.9219 97.5 114.88 8.5 3840 199.688 94.9219 97.5 114.88 8.55 3880 199.477 94.9219 97.5 97.78 8.6 3880 199.313 94.9219 97.5 97.78 8.65 3880 199.031 94.9219 95.92 93.94 8.7 3920 199.031 94.9219 94.185 92.685 8.75 3920 198.797 75.7813 75.77 77.8 8.8 3920 198.797 94.9219 97.5 95.83 8.85 3960 198.516 92.1875 92.28 91.34 8.9 3960 198.305 92.1875 79.875 82.56 8.95 4000 198.305 80.0781 80.215 82.79 9 4000 198.234 94.9219 96.175 94.07 9.05 4000 198.563 90.2344 90.155 89.84 9.1 4040 198.68 80.8594 80.85 83.185 9.15 4040 198.68 79.6875 79.71 82.38 9.2 4040 198.797 79.6875 79.725 82.375 9.25 4080 199.594 79.6875 79.92 82.49 9.3 4080 199.594 79.6875 79.92 82.49 9.35 4120 199.828 80.0781 80.035 82.54 9.4 4120 199.922 80.0781 80.21 82.64 9.45 4120 200.016 80.4688 80.555 82.89 9.5 4120 200.109 80.8594 80.81 83.09 9.55 4160 200.25 81.6406 81.565 83.59 9.6 4160 200.484 81.6406 81.675 83.69 9.65 4200 200.578 81.6406 81.605 83.59 9.7 4200 200.766 82.0313 82.2 84.04 9.75 4200 200.977 82.4219 82.465 84.19 9.8 4240 201.047 82.8125 82.72 84.39 9.85 4240 201.164 82.8125 83.055 84.59 9.9 4240 201.492 83.2031 83.175 84.64 9.95 4280 201.516 83.5938 83.505 84.89 10 4280 201.703 83.5938 83.605 84.94 10.05 4280 201.797 83.9844 84.18 85.34 10.1 4320 201.984 83.9844 83.955 85.19 10.15 4320 202.172 83.9844 84.22 85.34 10.2 4320 202.195 84.7656 84.705 85.74 10.25 4360 202.383 85.5469 85.61 86.34 10.3 4360 202.477 85.9375 86.1 86.69 10.35 4360 202.617 86.7188 86.835 87.24 10.4 4400 202.805 87.1094 87.085 87.44 10.45 4400 203.438 87.5 87.74 87.89 10.5 4400 203.484 88.2813 88.46 88.415 10.55 4440 203.813 88.2813 88.405 88.365 10.6 4440 203.836 89.8438 90.005 89.545 10.65 4440 203.977 89.8438 89.77 89.32 10.7 4480 204.07 89.8438 90.27 89.705 10.75 4480 204.211 90.2344 90.27 89.705 10.8 4480 204.492 91.0156 90.905 90.165 10.85 4520 204.492 91.0156 90.905 90.165 10.9 4520 204.68 91.0156 91.135 90.315 10.95 4520 204.75 91.7969 91.69 90.77 11 4520 204.984 94.9219 97.5 126.67 11.05 4560 205.078 94.9219 97.5 116.525 11.1 4560 205.148 94.9219 97.5 116.825 11.15 4600 205.289 94.9219 97.5 103.575 11.2 4600 205.359 94.9219 97.5 114.93 11.25 4600 205.477 94.9219 97.5 112.98 11.3 4600 205.734 94.9219 97.5 117.835 11.35 4640 205.828 94.9219 97.5 125.39 11.4 4640 206.109 94.9219 97.5 112.29 11.45 4640 206.109 94.9219 97.5 135.345 11.5 4640 206.227 94.9219 97.5 113.415 11.55 4680 206.344 94.9219 97.5 129.04 11.6 4680 206.531 94.9219 97.5 125.265 11.65 4720 206.531 94.9219 97.5 116.615 11.7 4720 206.836 94.9219 97.5 125.295 11.75 4720 206.789 94.9219 97.5 114.2 11.8 4720 207 94.9219 97.5 127.4 11.85 4760 206.953 94.9219 97.5 105.2 11.9 4760 207.141 94.9219 97.5 140.68 11.95 4760 207.563 94.9219 97.5 127.97 12 4760 207.844 94.9219 97.5 123.47 12.05 4800 207.984 94.9219 97.5 130.115 12.1 4800 208.031 94.9219 97.5 132.47 12.15 4800 208.313 94.9219 97.5 148.475 12.2 4840 208.336 94.9219 97.5 117.91 12.25 4840 208.453 94.9219 97.5 141.47 12.3 4840 208.523 94.9219 97.5 130.875 12.35 4840 208.734 94.9219 97.5 123.92 12.4 4880 208.828 94.9219 97.5 132.47 12.45 4880 208.922 94.9219 97.5 139.475 12.5 4880 209.016 94.9219 97.5 135.46 12.55 4880 209.016 94.9219 97.5 130.96 12.6 4920 209.203 94.9219 97.5 137.5 12.65 4920 209.227 94.9219 97.5 144.46 12.7 4920 209.391 94.9219 97.5 136.1 12.75 4920 209.602 94.9219 97.5 133.52 12.8 4960 209.602 94.9219 97.5 139.96 12.85 4960 194.438 89.0625 89.23 89.15 12.9 4920 193.711 0 0 0 12.95 4880 156.305 0 0 0 Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 12, 2016, 09:13:45 AM Please post an actual useful log from ME7L
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: SB_GLI on May 12, 2016, 12:03:06 PM PID trims?
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 13, 2016, 05:09:04 AM PID trims? going to adjust KFLDIMX to 95% flat settings on the top line Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 14, 2016, 11:43:43 AM that did it :)
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: vwaudiguy on May 14, 2016, 01:58:46 PM Was it originally set to 97.5% across the same line you changed? You stated something to this effect in the first post.
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 14, 2016, 02:11:32 PM Yea I just left n75 duty to where it was and set KFLDIMX to a flat 95 percent along the top line, according to s4 wiki if ldrxn is flat so should the top line of this table, if that makes sense?
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 14, 2016, 02:35:11 PM Logs.
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 14, 2016, 02:42:32 PM I don't have any my laptop had an accident this evening...... but as I mentioned above setting this cured the long WOT boost surge
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 14, 2016, 02:46:58 PM In the "log" at the start where it started surging is where this pid regulator map had been adjusted to 70-80ish so I'm assuming it must have been surging with out the 3" dp, tip and filter mods ...
This file I had was a generic stage one Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 06:46:46 AM Oh well now the surging has gone on to part load boost at 50 percent will get some logs today
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 10:44:39 AM so i took off 10 percent on the n75 duty and that seam to calm it down a little in 60 percent from 2500 to 4000 ish
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 10:52:25 AM find my project file
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 11:29:49 AM Please obey forum rules.
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4094.0title= Do not post xls files, they're worthless for use in ecuxplot Post the original csvs. Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 12:02:39 PM sorry i dont use this plot software ?
iv used me7 and then copy the data from the data view ? Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 12:06:31 PM I have no idea what you are asking.
Post the original .csv Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 12:08:53 PM ok .csv
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 12:09:59 PM That is not the original .csv
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 12:12:07 PM yes its the original data,and has not been modified
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 12:15:26 PM yes its the original data,and has not been modified original "data" IS NOT THE ORIGINAL FILE. It is missing all of the headers. Do not export .csv from .xls, do not copy/paste into excel. Post the actual .csv file that your logging software generates directly. Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 12:21:10 PM all i can find to that result is my output log
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 12:28:38 PM That is not the right file either, and you aren't logging nearly enough variables.
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 12:31:54 PM Also, please read the various logging howto guides. You aren't logging nearly enough things
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 12:37:51 PM i normally just keep the session view open and use the software to look at my results, not handy for sharing i know
ok yes i do log lots more but i wasn't sure that all the other info was needed for trouble shooting n75 duty ? im fairly happy now that the WOT has been fixed, i dont normally cruse at 50 percent all the way up to the red line Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: nyet on May 15, 2016, 12:39:46 PM ok yes i do log lots more but i wasn't sure that all the other info was needed for trouble shooting n75 duty ? varoius pid variables, i limiter, etc. In particular, troubleshooting part throttle can be tricky. http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Base_boost_and_wastegate_spring_pressure Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 15, 2016, 12:57:30 PM ok will try log this stuff at some point this coming week... iv been reading that over and over for a week and then beer gets involved........
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fknbrkn on May 15, 2016, 06:31:40 PM its hot in here :)
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on May 16, 2016, 01:25:57 AM It's not to bad in Aberdeen
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on June 02, 2016, 08:21:27 AM here finally
Title: Re: 1.8t n75 duty cycle fluctuations Post by: fgtskofd on June 03, 2016, 07:03:50 AM Sorted it my maf was over scaled
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