NefMoto

Finished this file up last night. Successfully flashed the ECU and started the car up for a quick sec but it was late (like 1am) and I have full turbo back exhaust w/ all mandrel bent pipes, no-cat, 3in DP and a nice little round maganaflow muffler... my shit is pretty loud warming up so I had to shut her down like 20 seconds after I started it up...

Basically I'm looking for someone with a little more experience, who wouldn't mind taking a quick peek at my .bin and giving me their own personal opinion, on whether you think things will hold up for a relatively short (10 minutes or so) data logging session, cruising up and down the highway near my house... Or maybe you happen to spot something absolutely bonkers with my file that needs to be addressed right this instant before I even think of stepping outside of this house little mister!!...  :-[ :'(

Tuned file: Stage 1 w/ Launch Control
ECU: 06A906032DL | v360227 | sw0003 | Immo:ON
Engine: AWW 1.8L K03s Turbo || 2001 Wolfsburg Jetta

Thanks in advance! I appreciate it greatly!

Hate to ask you to do this, but I don't have an .xml log parser... can you log using ME7L instead?

If this is a narrowband car (I think it is) having a wideband wouldn't be a bad idea.

Are you talking about ME7Logger? Maybe I used incorrect terminology somewhere along the line, but I do in fact plan on using ME7_Logger to record my data while driving.


Actually the AWW is wideband! :) I'm not sure if this is true, but I remember learning a while back, that you can quickly determine whether or not an me7.5 ECU is wideband or narrowband based on the size of the .bin 1024kb/1.00mb is wideband 512kb... right? lol

No, you're right

AWD = narrowband
AWW/ AWP = wideband. You're good

Right on!!
So you think I'll be alright?

I didn't look through any of your stuff. I simply meant "you have a wideband sensor".

The engine bay smells like fuel extremely strong... lol Whenever I start the car. I think there is something wrong with the tune. I'm going to tweak some things.

Take a look at measuring block 32 and check your fuel trims.

That doesn't sound like a tuning problem.

Can we make the first rule of tuning, CONFIRM YOUR HARDWARE!!!!!
That means running, test drives fuel trims whatever on stock or base files...

you didnt "finish up" that file.
that file is the same as the other copied file that was posted by another user. your file actually has items removed from the previous file, so maybe thats what you were doing?
or maybe you only copied certain changes because you weren't sure what all the patches were and why they were important.

also, there is no 2step in that file. lol.

"Finished up" swapping maps n' shit.

what did I miss about launch control? I thought I did a good job?


I am aware of most of the parameters in my .bin and what their functions are. I refer to the s4 wiki every day and I have a copy of it printed and binded that rests on my lap whenever I'm working on remapping and so forth. I also attached another pdf that I have printed out that I also refer to on a daily basis. I am very willing to learn and I am just trying to get some help. Thats why I posted in the noob section of nefmoto... Also the file I posted isn't the same as the file your referring to. I have a lot of various .bin files on my computer which I often refer to as a reference which help me learn. I am not looking to discredit anyone or do anything wrong.

Do you care to tell me what I've missed in regards to implementing launch control in my .bin?

Or do you atleast wish to tell me why, in your opinion, you say I have not properly implemented launch control in my file?

My hard
Alright I'll check, you mean in vcds right?

I made a point to confirm the health and proper functioning of my hardware for months before writing anything non-stock to my ecu.
I logged using me7logger and recorded multiple instances which I then reviewed using ecux_plot to root out any possible faults or issues and to ensure proper overall functioning of my vehicles primary components...
 
My hardware is on point.

i looked at this briefly before leaving and now back looking at it. i was concentrated on particular maps before looking at exact changes (in particular maps).
you have a soft launch enabled.

that file would not make you car smell like raw fuel.

But his hardware is on point....

none of this:


would make the car dump fuel. maybe not ride the irl/ldrxn limiter so much either.

ha ha ha very funny...  :D


As you know from my previous thread you referred to earlier, my car has been sitting for a few days. Could the excessive fuel smell be caused by the car sitting for a few days and then starting it up? I turned the car off roughly 15 seconds after starting it to avoid any chance of damage and I decided I would wait for clarification from fellow nefmoto members... Thank you for clearing this up for me. So in your opinion I should be safe allowing my car to idle a little bit longer to see if the smell continues?

Thanks for continuing to help me @k0mpresd

Also when I start me7logger something weird happens. Here is my usual (unusual) procedure:

Open me7logger
turn key to on position
click start logging
command prompt opens and says failed to connect
open nefmoto and connect slow init
once connected in nefmoto, click disconnect
close nefmoto and toggle back to me7logger
clock start logging
command prompt opens and connection is successful
I then start car and engine shuts off in 1 second
check DTCs in VCDS and there is 1 code "engine start blocked by immobilizer"
clear codes
open nefmoto and connect
click disconnect
close nefmoto and toggle back to me7logger
clock start logging
command prompt opens and connection is successful
turn key and start car
at this point the engine stays running and logging continues
...

any ideas how to prevent this without disabling immo?

Start the car, pull the cluster fuse so it dies but the car will stay running.  The cluster often causes interference with ME7Logger.  I've cut my cluster with my front fog switch.  Pull out to log.

What maps have you modified?  Why did you do this?  What hardware do you have?  Changed MAF, injectors?  If so, what did you change to accompany this?  Had a smoke test?  Why have you attempted to implement LC?  Basics first.

Post up a list of maps you've changed, what you've changed them to - and YOUR reasoning for this; not the internet's.  Tell us why you changed it so you've got a solid understanding.

Who's file have you copied?

these are the maps he has changed:


there are decimal points in that file that are exactly specific to files i have released, though albeit parts of it are drastically changed and left out. but it originally started life as mine. the other file he posted was a lot closer match, still tweaked in some areas though.

This is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.

It should be encouraged.

That said, I don't think anybody should be copying any LC routines unless they know exactly what they do.

Just my opinion.

Before I change any maps in a .bin I always refer back to the s4 wiki or the pdf "understanding ECU remapping the audi TT 1.8t variants" (which actually refers back to the s4 wiki quite a bit lol). I will only begin to alter a parameter once I understand what the purpose and function of the particular map is. I have downloaded and acquired roughly a hundred .bins and .xdf files from many different sources over the past 7 months or so... Many tuned files, original files, Almost all of them go unused but they dont take up too much space and they have all been wonderful learning tools that I have used in numerous ways to further educate myself. I often times move between parameters comparing graphs and tables, both to learn and also to verify my own work with others... I've cross-referenced tuned files with their originals and made tables in excell that tally, compare & contrast the parameters that individuals altered. From there I export the list of maps which were altered and I place that list into microsoft one note. I then placed a backslash next to each parameter-name representing each time I found that a specific parameter was altered. After going through roughly 20 tuned .bin files (from both amateurs and professionals) I printed the list with all of the backslashes on it and created a color categorized system using a yellow, blue and orange highlighter. Yellow was the highest number of times a particular map was altered in the 20 bins I reviewed, orange was the second highest and blue was the least amount of times a particular change was noticed across the 20 bins. Now I had a rough idea of which maps were most significant (these would be parameters that we're likely a requirement to achieve a quality stage 1 tune), secondly, orange, would likely contain maps that were more of a personal preference if you will, some of these might be parameters you would find in a stage 2 file... Long story short, from there I took everything I had just done, the excel file, the one note file... I printed all of it and also included the highlighter color coded system I just mentioned. I printed the s4 wiki and the other pdf I mentioned and all together I have about 100 pages of reading material that is so nice and convenient to have in paper form. I am a graphic designer too, mostly digital and web based but I do a bit of print stuff too... I put together a nice cover in photoshop and I put everything together. My cover, s4 wiki, remapping.pdf and finally my notes (I also included 10 blank pages, 2 in the front, 4 after the s4 wiki and 4 more in the back all for notes and so forth..)

Heres a picture.

(https://docs.google.com/uc?export=&id=0B1m5COB73xgEbTh1OHhxNll3cWM)

Thank you for all of the help everyone. I appreciate it and once I have logs I will make a new thread in the datalogging or rate my logs section so that I can continue to build on this wonderful community by contribute my material for others to benefit from in some way or another as I have benefited greatly from those before me.

I read through the entire thread on here started by @nosbeui on implementing launch control.
Once I had done some research I followed the guide and performed the necessary procedures to implement LC.

Original thread: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=151.0
 (http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=151.0)


That one^

It's good to see someone taking notes!

That book looks cool. Maybe my favorite thing about this site, is how much different some of us look at cars.
I can tell most of you come from a computer background, where I know nothing about any of that I know the
cars. Its very strange to try and look at it from another point of view.

Thats not actually real LC, just toying with the RPM limiter... i thought you were referring to the LC/NLS ASM hacks.

i thought he was as well. hence my original comment of "there is no 2step in that file".

I'm not 100% sure on this but based on my research it seems like Launch control uses sensors to detect any wheel slip, then interrupting your power output to try and implement a balance of both traction control and power. In other words launch control is traction control specifically for launch (taking off at a red light or a starting line at the track...)

2-step is LC but with a bit of trickery required to get it to work just right. you setup your rev limiter so that you floor it at your assigned rpm and bombs away! DROP THE CLUTCH! but as far as I understand there is a little more to the magic...
It seems like some individuals with 2-step implemented in their file, setup fueling to run a tad on the richer side. Their rev limiter acts somewhat as a cutoff for spark, Then when the spark is cutoff but fueling remains, fuel makes its way to the exhaust, where its then ignited, resulting in big pop pops! and flames!

I didn't want to go the 2step route because at the moment my muffler tip is like barely an inch recessed behind my bumper so until I adjust it by welding on another inch or two of 2.5" piping, my tip isn't actually poking out past the exterior of the rear bumper... I wanted to avoid something like this, but worse lol
https://youtu.be/81GPj-oOoY0

in a true LC/NLS implementation, both fuel and spark are manipulated directly through actual ECU code changes, not just map changes.

Thanks! I'd show you a pic of the back cover I made for it too but I've looked through it and written in it, highlighted shit, tore out a page or two and stapled it back in later... the thing is complete hell now. The back and front cover are god knows where lol... But the cold hard facts are still in there and thats what counts!

Funny you say that about coming from different backgrounds. I've had a lot of different hobbies growing up. I'm 25 now and no matter what "scene" I've found myself in, I can't think of one that has had members coming from practically every background imaginable. We all love our cars :)

I dont know what I spend more time occupied with, my business or tuning/modifying
(https://docs.google.com/uc?export=&id=0B1m5COB73xgENktVRWtyZktrRTg)

Whoa whoa that talk is forbidden in these here parts... My brain almost dun went poo on me partner...

The ecu rendition on the cover of your book is MED9/MED17, not ME7. Just sayin'  :)

google lied :(

Dude I was proud that he made a cover, I was not going to go there...

lol  :)