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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: Hollywood on October 17, 2016, 01:17:52 PM



Title: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: Hollywood on October 17, 2016, 01:17:52 PM
I have a car with a scrambled big name tune, for what appears to be stock MAF/Fueling car. Fuel trims are right on with the tuned ECU, but my stock 551A makes idle misfire, and fuel trims max out ++. Can anyone figure out what I am missing here? I'm pretty sure it's just an off the shelf stage 2 file, nothing custom... The maps that I see in the scrambled file for MAF and fuel scaling seem correct.

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Title: Re: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: nyet on October 17, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
Which MAF, Bosch or Hitachi?


Title: Re: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: Hollywood on October 17, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Which MAF, Bosch or Hitachi?

Car is a 2000, has stock sized Bosch maf.
I've tried tunes I've used on other Bosch cars and just started from scratch with a M-Box with MLHFM, KFKHFM, and MLOFS  transferred over......all act the same.


Title: Re: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: nyet on October 17, 2016, 01:27:14 PM
ignore the tuned ecu, it is useless (may have been calibrated based on bad hardware). Concentrate on diagnosing why stock isn't working right.

vac/boost leak? FPR? fuel filter? O2 sensor?


Title: Re: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: Hollywood on October 17, 2016, 01:44:16 PM
Pulled the MAF and found this....I hate people.


Title: Re: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: vwaudiguy on October 17, 2016, 08:50:32 PM
Pulled the MAF and found this....I hate people.

Please elaborate.



Title: Re: Stock A-Box runs like garbage, Scrambled Tuned ECU is OK.
Post by: Hollywood on October 19, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
Flashed 3 different ECUs with the ori 551A file. 1 M-box, 1 L-box, and 1 was 3B0 907 551CG that I run with an m-box tune in my 01. All 3 ran like shit and trimmed to full rich. the CG threw a fault for ECT P1621, but showed correct temp. Flashed the stock file over the APR tuned ecu that came out of the car (that was physically an L-box) and it runs perfectly.

Then I put the 551CG in a bone stock A-Box car, and it ran fine.

I'm thinking the car may have a grounding issue and different hardware versions that should work fine may have different ground or 5V connections internally that makes the original ECU work fine? No idea. Flashed all ecus with the same eeprom as well.

The car did kill and ecu a year ago, when this A-box flashed L-box was installed...