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Title: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: asg1290 on May 15, 2017, 04:20:39 PM I put an S4 cluster in my A4 but want to use the A4 guages. The A4 guages go up to 160 whereas the S4 go to 170 and my speed is slightly off. Does anyone know what and where I need to edit in the eeprom to do such a thing?
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: vdubnation on May 15, 2017, 05:17:36 PM Post both e2p and i ll do it.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: asg1290 on May 15, 2017, 05:31:26 PM Just give you both encrypted and decrypted dumps? I can do that when i get home tonight.
Thanks! Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: asg1290 on May 16, 2017, 10:14:05 PM here you go, sorry it took me a bit.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: asg1290 on May 20, 2017, 11:09:56 AM Here is my old a4 dump if you need that as well.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on July 30, 2020, 07:25:49 AM I have the same Problem. I got a S4 speedometer disc in my A4 Cluster. Can you teach me how to change it? I have VCDS + VAG Dash CAN
Best Regards, Nico Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: BlackT on July 30, 2020, 07:49:38 AM I have the same Problem. I got a S4 speedometer disc in my A4 Cluster. Can you teach me how to change it? I have VCDS + VAG Dash CAN 0x330Best Regards, Nico A4 A0 10 36 90 60 62 00 00 00 00 31 66 23 10 2A 10 S4 A0 10 36 90 64 73 00 00 00 00 31 66 23 10 2A 10 Try to change in S4 dump this 64 73 to 60 62 like in A4 I NEVER TRYED BUT THAT SCHOULD BE IT, i can try in few days to confirm Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on July 30, 2020, 08:45:51 AM I found this one line 320. Can you confirm it in few days pls? I need to wait for my KKL Cable to test it.
And what i need to change, when i change to RS4? It has 310km/h instead of 280 or 260 Code: Offset line 330 bit 00: Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: BlackT on July 30, 2020, 11:25:34 AM Don't tink it is 320 line, same cluster with same kmh scale have different values there. And it doesen't goes from lower to higher values like in other clusters.
I will put dump from my S4 and A4 RB4 clusters and try to find some relationship Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on July 30, 2020, 12:05:27 PM Thanks for your trying. can i test it without crashing something?
i save a backup from origonal eeprom Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: BlackT on July 30, 2020, 12:54:01 PM maybe it is on 320 offset, give me few days I will try to find something.
maybe macxxx have some idea? Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on July 30, 2020, 09:48:48 PM @macxxx any idea?
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on July 30, 2020, 11:40:21 PM You are right the line 0x320 is the speedo map , the best way to change it to 310 kmh is to copy the line from rs4 cluster dump but I cannot get such
This part of dump is not covered by checksum or crypted so you can change it without any harm - use vag epprom programeer and read and write in crypted mode ( vag dash can only changes crypted/immo in rb4 clusters area during writing epprom) Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on July 31, 2020, 02:16:19 AM ok, so i can easy change the line with vag eeprom programmer and VAG can commander?
And how i can check if it worked successfully? Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on July 31, 2020, 02:20:29 AM Read with vag epprom programeer, edit in hex editor and write with vag epprom programeer
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on July 31, 2020, 03:21:16 AM ok thanks i test it. and how can i check if it worked? gps speed and speedometer compare?
so i need the line from a RS4 B7 Dump Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on August 01, 2020, 05:30:52 AM Yes i think it the only way to check - or maybe you can simulate a can frame and send a speed signal.
Changing from mph to kmh is easy to check thru output test in vcds/vag-com In my opinion a rs4 b7 0x320 line should like: bb 00 77 01 10 27 0C 7B 00 00 71 01 00 20 62 40 ( 0c 7b is value 315 kmh at the end or try 18 79 that is 310 kmh , in s4 a value 54 6f is 285 kmh ) Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 01, 2020, 08:13:04 AM ok i will test is when my KKL Cable arrived.
Maybe i can check the speed signal in RNS-E in Engineering Mode Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 04, 2020, 06:43:21 AM My VAG Can Commander 5.5 arrived, but it dont work.
I found out that i have a RB8 Cluster. Any Idea? Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on August 04, 2020, 06:47:22 AM vag commander wont work - rb4 clusters can read with kkl cable and vag epprom programeer 1.19 , rb8 only with vag dash can , abrites/fvdi , carprog etc.
Of if you have a progamer you can read and write dump straight from epprom Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 04, 2020, 07:47:34 AM Ok thanks.
Fu*** Sh*** :P I ordered now VAG DASH CAN 5.29 Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 14, 2020, 02:22:02 AM @macxxx
My dash can arrived. Is there any thing I can make wrong in read/write? Don't want to brick my speedometer Best regards Nico Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on August 14, 2020, 05:09:56 AM If you dont mess up crypted part then you are safe , vag dash can saves a rescue file in case of problems
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 14, 2020, 05:18:49 AM @macxxx I tried now to read eeprom but dash can says always ERROR 1422
Help please Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on August 14, 2020, 05:30:48 AM What option did you use?
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 14, 2020, 05:35:18 AM @macxxx
Audi A4 05-07 RB8 I have a A4 B7 12.01.2008 Have you maybe whatsapp or something? It would be very nice if you can help me.. I tried other options but not working. It reads out: 8E0920931S 0200 KOMBI+WFS 3 H10 WAUZZZ8E88A12***** AUX6Z0G0058938 Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on August 14, 2020, 05:39:24 AM Never had any problem with reading these clusters - maybe once i had such erorr but can't remember what was the cause.
I understand that it connects , reads identification and then the erorr shows up? You read in car or on bench? Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on August 14, 2020, 05:41:01 AM @macxxx
hmm :( i read in car... Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: BlackT on August 14, 2020, 07:10:03 AM Do you reading crypted or encryped?
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on August 14, 2020, 11:35:19 AM There is no such option in vagdashcan and rb8 clusters
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: Bechersbou on September 13, 2020, 04:49:51 AM Just for Information:
Speed Scale from a brand new RS4 Cluster: Code: BB 00 77 01 10 27 0C 7B 00 00 71 01 00 20 42 40 Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on September 13, 2020, 11:42:10 AM Almost got it ;)
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: EuroXs4 on November 05, 2021, 07:55:57 PM Sorry to bump an old thread. Curious what was the end result of this project?? and if anyone has the rpm scale for a rs4 as I am doing something similar.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on November 06, 2021, 10:43:48 AM upload your dump I will modify it
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on November 20, 2021, 03:37:00 PM Hi. any chance you can help me with A6 C6 cluster? swaped EU cluster with UK. speed needles does not work same way
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on November 28, 2021, 11:07:07 AM no one interested?
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on November 28, 2021, 02:30:34 PM I tried to find a solution a few years ago and didn't figure it out
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on November 29, 2021, 03:05:48 AM I have found solution for facelift model 2009. but this one need to try on car I guess
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on November 30, 2021, 03:27:50 PM the dumps in pre-FL are smaller and different ( eprom 95160 , in FL 95320 as I remember) - can you share the solution from FL cluster? I can upload a few dumps from A6 C6 Pre-FL cluster for comparison if you want.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on December 01, 2021, 04:08:27 PM I have dumps but can not find anything that could be it. As for fl if you will copy from 100 till 1e0 that wiil do.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on December 01, 2021, 04:18:36 PM Ok THX I will check and maybe find a new clue or a pattern to comparison for a pre FL dump ;D
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on December 01, 2021, 08:57:21 PM Thanks would be great
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on December 15, 2021, 11:28:33 AM do you have any C6 FL dumps , I only have one in my collection , I have no comparison
I attached some zipped epproms from preFL C6 , I would try to copy epprom from 0x080 to 0x100 ( did you try? ) , as I noticed a few years ago , i think from 0x000 to 0x080 there is crypted data of Component Protection Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on December 15, 2021, 02:16:49 PM I didn’t try to do prefl yet. But soon I will have to. Because I have swapped red/black cluster eur to coloured one uk’s for my friend. Display on the middle works fine, but still need to sort the speed needle.
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on December 15, 2021, 02:26:27 PM I have couple UK clusters. petrol and diesel
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on December 15, 2021, 02:28:29 PM petrol
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on January 03, 2022, 08:49:14 AM do you have any C6 FL dumps , I only have one in my collection , I have no comparison I attached some zipped epproms from preFL C6 , I would try to copy epprom from 0x080 to 0x100 ( did you try? ) , as I noticed a few years ago , i think from 0x000 to 0x080 there is crypted data of Component Protection I guess you were right it is somewhere between 080 and 100. Did one test today. but it also enables one of the level control led indicators, not sure why Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: macxxx on January 03, 2022, 12:21:37 PM maybe some codings or adaptation channel are stored in the lines?
Title: Re: Adjust speed scale on Audi B6 RB4 cluster Post by: semaudi on January 03, 2022, 01:12:55 PM looks like what we are looking for is in line 0D0. still need to test.
also I have noticed that instruments has 2 modes. 1. sleeping mode. arrow goes little bit below zero 2. active mode. when door opens or ignition start. arrow goes right at zero. when I copy 0D0 line making UK to EU. sleeping mode ok, but active mode goes above zero +1 or 2 kmh. I have moved arrow by hand to zero. will be testing on car when I will have car. |