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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: rob.mwpropane on December 23, 2011, 05:27:41 PM



Title: tmot vs tmst
Post by: rob.mwpropane on December 23, 2011, 05:27:41 PM
tmot- engine start temperature
tmst- engine temperature

What's the difference? Fwiw, I tried looking at it in the FR, but I couldn't figure it out on my own. Happy holidays. Thanks.


Title: Re: tmot vs tmst
Post by: Rick on December 23, 2011, 06:16:46 PM
tmst is the engine temperature when the engine was last started, tmot is current temperature.


Title: Re: tmot vs tmst
Post by: rob.mwpropane on December 23, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
tmst is the engine temperature when the engine was last started, tmot is current temperature.

Thanks Rick.


Title: Re: tmot vs tmst
Post by: TTQS on December 24, 2011, 08:18:56 AM
Hi Rob.

This is sort of explained in the ATM 33.50 section. It was quite challenging to translate and is worth a read because Motronic deals with catalyst temperatures after repeat starts, etc. in quite a clever (but logical) way.

To be fair, I don't think you would have got the answer explicitly, but you might have been able to work it out by reading this module. Some quotes:

"The initial values for the exhaust and catalyst temperature at engine start can be calculated from the temperatures at switch-off and delay times."

"When stopping the engine (C_nachl 0 --> 1) the temperatures tabgm and tkatm are stored.
When starting the engine, the initial temperatures tabgmst and tkatmst are calculated from the switch-off temperature (corrected for ambient temperature) and a factor obtained from maps KFATMABKA or KFATMABKK as a function of tabstatm and tatu.
"

TTQS


Title: Re: tmot vs tmst
Post by: rob.mwpropane on December 24, 2011, 03:42:18 PM
Hi Rob.

This is sort of explained in the ATM 33.50 section. It was quite challenging to translate and is worth a read because Motronic deals with catalyst temperatures after repeat starts, etc. in quite a clever (but logical) way.

To be fair, I don't think you would have got the answer explicitly, but you might have been able to work it out by reading this module. Some quotes:

"The initial values for the exhaust and catalyst temperature at engine start can be calculated from the temperatures at switch-off and delay times."

"When stopping the engine (C_nachl 0 --> 1) the temperatures tabgm and tkatm are stored.
When starting the engine, the initial temperatures tabgmst and tkatmst are calculated from the switch-off temperature (corrected for ambient temperature) and a factor obtained from maps KFATMABKA or KFATMABKK as a function of tabstatm and tatu.
"

TTQS

Nope, I mean I see it, but I never would have pulled it from that without being shown. Thank you very much.
Happy/Merry Christmas.