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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: hugoreisfe on September 21, 2017, 08:31:11 AM



Title: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 21, 2017, 08:31:11 AM
First of all, hi guys and thanks for all the information on this group.
If i can i will help others.

I was wondering if anyone can tune this map for multimap.
I tried to understand the post on edc15 multi map but i'm recent to tuning(2 years) and I'm still studying some things.

BTW i'm willing to pay!! pm me or send email: hugoreispt1@gmail.com

Thanks.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: prj on September 21, 2017, 08:52:38 AM
Nice first post.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 21, 2017, 09:01:10 AM
Yeah i know. ;D ;D ;D

I didn't tried this forum before because i though it was mainly me7 and 9 which in my country people don't use.

But now i've seen that members have all kinds of tunes and helps.

Also when i saw this forum i thought for my self, "no one is gonna accept me since i can't help in that ecus".

You can check in ecuconnections that i'm a member for a long time and try to help people.
I'm used to edc15 tunes.

If anyone needs help in that just pm me or email: hugoreispt1@gmail.com


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: GianniNOS on September 22, 2017, 12:38:41 AM
hi hugo,
what do you mean for multimap?


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 22, 2017, 07:11:07 AM
Hello,

It's a switch that can change from codeblock 1 to 2 or 3 with a combination of pedals or cruise control or other buttons.

This is in edc15 which has 3 codeblocks, manual, automatic or 4x4.

Basically it lets you change from this 3 codeblocks and it's useful for you to put in car to have for example: a economy map, a normal map and a tuned map for power.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: prj on September 25, 2017, 12:16:05 AM
Basically it lets you change from this 3 codeblocks and it's useful for you to put in car to have for example: a economy map, a normal map and a tuned map for power.
Age old beginner needs that have no place in the real world.
Your economy and your power map are all the same. You are tuning a digital ECU, not a carburetor for christs sakes.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: adam- on September 25, 2017, 04:12:22 AM
Yup.  My 360~bhp 1.8t will do 35mpg to work (8 miles of 60mph), 44mpg on the motorway, 30's around town.  Drives absolutely stock around town, no aggressiveness until you're WOT.  The way it should be.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 25, 2017, 07:23:40 AM
PRJ

i get your point, but i want to have a stock map, a power map, and a high power map.

The high power is for 1 race or something like that.

As i don't want to use that as a daily drive.

My current map doing 8l/100km, and my stock map does 5,5/100km.

For example for me to go to work the stock map works, but when i go to meetings i would like a little more power, and sometimes meetings are 500km away from me.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: SB_GLI on September 25, 2017, 09:37:45 AM

i get your point, but i want to have a stock map, a power map, and a high power map.


With a tune that is correctly calibrated, there is no need for this.   Power is controlled with your foot via the accelerator pedal.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 25, 2017, 10:20:27 AM
I know all that.

But you can't control boost for example, and other things.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: prj on September 25, 2017, 02:05:50 PM
I know all that.

But you can't control boost for example, and other things.

Of course you can. Don't push pedal to the floor = not max boost. Simple.
There are many valid reasons for map switching, but you have not listed a single one of them.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 25, 2017, 02:30:37 PM
I think i did.

My car is already a project going on.

I've changed the turbo, added fmic, changed exhaust system, intake.
Planning to put bigger injectors and cam.

And it's faster and easier for me to do 3 remaps and test them 3 then doing 1 by 1.
Also i'm afraid with some changed i'm gonna make and i can change the map to just for example 10km of hard tune and then tune to do the rest i need to go home, in case the engine gets too hot or something like that.

I know i'm asking you all a lot.

Thanks anyway


Title: Re:
Post by: THANAS on September 26, 2017, 04:32:55 AM
I suggest making 3 different sizes of wooden block that you place under your accelerator pedal. Use the biggest economy block for daily driving and then swap to the race block for the track, sorted.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: adam- on September 26, 2017, 04:56:02 AM
Maybe he's done the accelerator switch upgrade, where it's only on or off?


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 26, 2017, 06:16:04 AM
THANAS,

Thanks for your advice, maybe your ecu will do the job better then wooden blocks. The function of the both are the same, NONE and none properly programmed.

Adam

No I didn't decalibrated the driver wish and other maps of acellerator sensor.
I just need some help because it's a feature good for my car for my reasons.

Besides that for all people, i've said i would pay for that. I didn't ask for freebie.
If you could help me understand that's good, if not i will pay.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: Carsinc on September 26, 2017, 11:26:22 AM
I'm lost, sooo your saying you want a switchable map tune that simply reduces your max power?
you said you want a stock mode yet you have upgraded hard components injectors and turbo, that would seem to make
"stock" a bad move. I'm just confused as to why you cant just not push the gas as much?


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 26, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
I'm lost, sooo your saying you want a switchable map tune that simply reduces your max power?
you said you want a stock mode yet you have upgraded hard components injectors and turbo, that would seem to make
"stock" a bad move. I'm just confused as to why you cant just not push the gas as much?

First of all thanks for the reply.
I want to use as much as i can from my ecu.
I would like to get that because for example: for a race i would set the launch control at 2.5k to reduce wheelspin, and i cannot have my car doing popcorn in a daily drive, and i push well over 2.5k in normal drive. It's an example there are many more.
The torque limiter in a race tune is very different from a daily drive.
Egr can't be on in a race tune.

I know the throttle can do all the difference, but what if i want to ran map instead of a maf in a race tune and then switch to daily drive as a maf tune? i simply can't.

I know most of you don't agree with me that's ok.




Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: adam- on September 26, 2017, 12:29:28 PM
You can't do all of what you want with the remaining empty space.  There isn't enough.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 26, 2017, 01:41:57 PM
You can't do all of what you want with the remaining empty space.  There isn't enough.

Yes i can. It's 3 codeblocks in my ecu.

Why instead of criticizing and making unusefull comments why not help?


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: KasperH on September 26, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
What you want is way beyond just a simple multi map.
You could do it with a dual chip switch board.


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: nihalot on September 26, 2017, 08:37:03 PM
On edc15 you can switch entire map sets, unlike on me7/med9/medc17

I use multimap cause I don’t trust my friends with the higher power ;)
+valet mode


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: adam- on September 26, 2017, 11:52:45 PM
The more you know! :) How big is the flash?


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: jochen_145 on September 28, 2017, 08:09:59 AM
It's a switch that can change from codeblock 1 to 2 or 3 with a combination of pedals or cruise control or other buttons.

Never heart about this functionallity in EDC15, but maybe some brother go ahead with this ?!
In Subaru STI you can find this kind of functionallity, but the code itself needs to be patched for this.

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This is in edc15 which has 3 codeblocks, manual, automatic or 4x4.
Yes, you can extent the dump, if only one or two are availible now, but the chance is done by coding. So you need an diagnosic tool for this, if you got a stock Hardware.

Easiest way to get something simular to your request is to dobble the Flash inside the ECU and switch via chip-enable and a external switch. But in this case, you can just choose between two applications without diagnostic tool.

Some years ago, I reat from a "active" switch, with does the ecu coding by presse a button at the dash, but I do not remember where...




Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: hugoreisfe on September 28, 2017, 12:54:03 PM
There is a post about this multi map on this ecu and a checksum disable, only works if you do that.

These post we're made by a member of this forum, which is helping me and he made the same posts here i think (not sure).
That member is Nihalot! you can ask him for help or to make you a file, he was very helpful to me, great guy.

Multimap
http://www.ecuconnections.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=51373

Checksum Disable
http://www.ecuconnections.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=49704

About extending the dump and things like that, not very practical even with the switch and all, that's why i went with this feature!


Title: Re: Multimap on AUDI
Post by: jochen_145 on September 30, 2017, 01:47:36 AM
There is a post about this multi map on this ecu and a checksum disable, only works if you do that.

great stuff :) ! Didn´t know this for EDC15 bevor..
The need to disable checksum is totaly clear, if you chance between "coding area" during ECU is running.
You need to do the same, if you like to switch between dobble flashes during ECU is running.
I myself pever switching switched off with a hardware switch, because I like to have my checksumms on.


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About extending the dump and things like that, not very practical even with the switch and all, that's why i went with this feature!
Extending the dump is allways a good feature, if you like to run the diesel to its maxium.
I used it everytime, to be able to run a "must-not-run-all-time-application" for 1/4mile racing e.g.
Ok, it isn´t that comforable,because you need a diagnositc system. But the switching between only two applications with a dobble flash works realy fine, as long as you don´t want to chance characteristic during driven ;)