Title: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: Pasteurised on October 18, 2017, 08:21:22 AM Hey guys, wondering if anyone can help, this is on a BAM engine.
What i am trying to achieve is to have the cars fueling controlled by LAMFA the majority of the time, then if the EGT reaches a certain point, have it controlled by KFLBTS. This is what these tables look like stock: (https://s20.postimg.org/8i0ifc8wt/screenshot_2017_10_18_at_16_16_40.png) and this is what i have changed them to: (LAMFA targets best spool and best power) (https://s20.postimg.org/4ln6jgy8t/screenshot_2017_10_18_at_16_20_15.png) tables on the right havent been changed from stock Will it work like this or do i need to change any other tables? What is KFDLBTS and does it supersede KFLBTS? Thanks Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: 4ringpieces on October 18, 2017, 09:00:17 AM Both Dlbts maps to zero
Stabgm to zero Tabgbts to 860c Will use lamfa most of time, Will switch to bts map when around 5500-6000 on a 4th run dependant of your egts, then obviously stay there when driving hard through 5th/6th. Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: adam- on October 18, 2017, 09:45:23 AM Factor should be 0. Use the Wiki for the calculation so you can understand.
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: Pasteurised on October 18, 2017, 10:01:17 AM thanks guys, how does this look:
(https://s20.postimg.org/r9l9ru68d/screenshot_2017_10_18_at_17_59_31.png) I've enriched the last value in LAMFA as i was getting 5.3 timing pull on a couple of cylinders after 6000rpm 3rd gear, or could i use these maps instead to enrich when timing is pulled? (https://s20.postimg.org/rdo9zfdkt/screenshot_2017_10_18_at_18_24_34.png) Just realised my KFLAMKR columns arent defined correctly, should be rpm Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 18, 2017, 10:36:21 AM i never will understand why people set 0 bts maps, it will be easy to calculate desired afr but bts factors help to protect engine for a disaster if something goes wrong, (if engine have very high egt on low rpm for example it is extrange but could happend)
On the other hand why used lamfa always as fuelling? as i have test car is faster with higher afrs... 0,95 like on stock file. i like let lamfa stock and when temperature rising get fuelling via bts (with an afr of 0,85) and let Stabgm for component protection with reacher lambdas. Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: 4ringpieces on October 18, 2017, 10:46:36 AM thanks guys, how does this look: (https://s20.postimg.org/r9l9ru68d/screenshot_2017_10_18_at_17_59_31.png) I've enriched the last value in LAMFA as i was getting 5.3 timing pull on a couple of cylinders after 6000rpm 3rd gear, or could i use these maps instead to enrich when timing is pulled? (https://s20.postimg.org/rdo9zfdkt/screenshot_2017_10_18_at_18_24_34.png) Just realised my KFLAMKR columns arent defined correctly, should be rpm I'd run lamfa around 0.8 at 6k onwards 0.82 from 4000 0.85 from 2000-3000 Smooth between 3000-4000 Use the 84% row of lamfa enrich it slightly etc. Run bts down about 2-3points lower than lamfa to around 0.78 top end. You'll gain power by getting your cf's to zero. Have you turned off the armd so timing is smoother? Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 18, 2017, 10:51:46 AM I'd run lamfa around 0.8 at 6k onwards 0.82 from 4000 0.85 from 2000-3000 Smooth between 3000-4000 Use the 84% row of lamfa enrich it slightly etc. Run bts down about 2-3points lower than lamfa to around 0.78 top end. You'll gain power by getting your cf's to zero. Have you turned off the armd so timing is smoother? what do you mean with cf´s? Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: Pasteurised on October 18, 2017, 11:04:08 AM Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: Pasteurised on October 18, 2017, 11:12:15 AM I'd run lamfa around 0.8 at 6k onwards 0.82 from 4000 0.85 from 2000-3000 Smooth between 3000-4000 Use the 84% row of lamfa enrich it slightly etc. Run bts down about 2-3points lower than lamfa to around 0.78 top end. You'll gain power by getting your cf's to zero. Have you turned off the armd so timing is smoother? Ill need to located the tables related to ARMD Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: adam- on October 18, 2017, 11:50:33 AM Read the headings of the tables and you'll see why that's bad.
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: sonique on October 18, 2017, 12:36:19 PM @Pasteurised
you are changed BTS map bam engine why ? factory not used this map you are write anything total enough lamfa and Real Egt components protection !!! Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 18, 2017, 01:05:20 PM if you change fbstabgm on 860-->0 bts will entry if TABGBTS i under 960º am i right? and egt protection will entry on 960º by atr?
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: 4ringpieces on October 18, 2017, 01:15:23 PM If tabgbts....860c and Actual egt over 860c = switch from lamfa to klfbts if values in klfbts are lower than lamfa.
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 18, 2017, 01:18:24 PM here a picture of my fuel tuning
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: sonique on October 18, 2017, 02:25:16 PM plz see the TT 240Hp file
this file used BTS and ATR ;) Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 18, 2017, 02:39:20 PM thankss i will try to find it!
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 18, 2017, 03:47:11 PM i found it! thanks im going to study it!
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: eliotroyano on October 18, 2017, 05:53:42 PM plz see the TT 240Hp file this file used BTS and ATR ;) But those engines have real EGT sensors. Then EGTs are way more precise than calculated ones. Title: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: 4ringpieces on October 19, 2017, 12:17:34 AM Bam has real egt sensor too
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 19, 2017, 12:49:20 AM does someone have a damos for TT 240 file? it will be easier to find maps on winols.
I think Bam use bts too but only while 40ºc between 820 and 860ºc when atr entry am i right? thank you! Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: Pasteurised on October 19, 2017, 04:21:51 AM Am i correct in saying that LAMFA is active till 820c at which point KFLBTS becomes active till 860c at which point KFDLBTS become active?
Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: adam- on October 19, 2017, 04:40:18 AM Richest wins. LAMFA is always active.
Title: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: 4ringpieces on October 19, 2017, 04:49:05 AM There's no damos for the 240 file and you don't need it.
Once over the threshold kflbts will engage, then it's a game of lowest wins Title: Re: LAMFA and Component Protection Post by: ivan on October 19, 2017, 09:05:49 AM heheh ok thankss, i will look for maps step to step
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