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ECU Files => Original ECU File Requests => Topic started by: gooliaath on November 25, 2017, 04:50:38 AM



Title: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: gooliaath on November 25, 2017, 04:50:38 AM
B7 S4 4.2 V8 20V 6 speed M/T original flash file

Bosch PN: 8E0910560J / 4E0907560
HW: 0261208442
SW: 1037376349


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 07:56:57 AM
B7 S4 4.2 V8 20V 6 speed M/T original flash file

Bosch PN: 8E0910560J / 4E0907560
HW: 0261208442
SW: 1037376349
This file is not for the BBK S4 motor 8E0910560J
This file is for the Audi a8d3 motor 4E0907560
 8E0910560J / 4E0907560 Completely different engines


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: gremlin on January 04, 2025, 08:30:21 AM
This file is not for the BBK S4 motor 8E0910560J
This file is for the Audi a8d3 motor 4E0907560
 8E0910560J / 4E0907560 Completely different engines

Why write nonsense if you yourself don’t know?
SW number is 8E0910560J. It's S4 BBK motor firmwarе.
4E0907560 is HW number of ECU.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 08:54:20 AM
Why write nonsense if you yourself don’t know?
SW number is 8E0910560J. It's S4 BBK motor firmwarе.
4E0907560 is HW number of ECU.
You are writing nonsense! 4E0907560 is 4E0910560J This is A8D3 BFM motor with belt!
8E0910560J is a BBK motor from S4B7 and it is chain driven!


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: prj on January 04, 2025, 09:49:08 AM
You are writing nonsense! 4E0907560 is 4E0910560J This is A8D3 BFM motor with belt!
8E0910560J is a BBK motor from S4B7 and it is chain driven!

907 is hardware number. 910 is software number.

Both 4E0910560J and 8E0910560J use the 4E0907560 hardware.

If you don't know the difference between hardware and software maybe just don't post at all.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 10:23:39 AM
You don't understand at all what I'm writing about. On my S4B7 ECU the number is 8e0910560J, there are no other numbers. I wrote down the firmware from the first message of this topic, when I turned on the ignition, errors immediately appeared on the phase sensors. After investigation, I realized that the author posted a file from an A8d3 BFM belt motor, which has different phase sensors. The author made a mistake with the software number and car model.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 10:28:06 AM
8E0910560J/4E0907560 such block does not exist!
There is block 4e0910560j/4e0907560.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: gremlin on January 04, 2025, 10:35:10 AM
After investigation, I realized that the author posted a file from an A8d3 BFM belt motor, which has different phase sensors. The author made a mistake with the software number and car model.

Your "investigation" is another stupidity you showed  ;D


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 10:41:36 AM
Your "investigation" is another stupidity you showed  ;D
Do you have s4b7/b6? Upload the firmware from the author of this topic and look for errors in the camshaft sensors!


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: gremlin on January 04, 2025, 11:01:44 AM
Do you have s4b7/b6? Upload the firmware from the author of this topic and look for errors in the camshaft sensors!
8E0910560J/4E0907560 such block does not exist!

You can only read labels on ecu case?  ;D
And now open authors 8E0910560J firmware in hex editor and search for "4E0907560" ascii signature.
You will be very surprised. :o






Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 11:18:54 AM
You can only read labels on ecu case?  ;D
And now open authors 8E0910560J firmware in hex editor and search for "4E0907560" ascii signature.
You will be very surprised. :o


Do you have s4b7/b6? Upload the firmware from the author of this topic and look for errors in the camshaft sensors!





Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: prj on January 04, 2025, 02:01:40 PM
It's normal for BBK to have 4E0907560 hardware.
Here is a file I read myself from a S4 B7 with BBK engine. Zero issues with the car of course, because it's an original file.
Also 4E0907560 hardware.

It even uses the same EPK pretty much:

EPK 8E0910560J 0020:
42/1/ME7.1.1/5/C1105G//25F/E5fegh3/040405/
EPK 8E3910560 0020:
42/1/ME7.1.1/5/C1105G//25F/E5fega3/310305/

It is possible there are some differences between B6 and B7 software and they use different hw.
But there is for sure nothing wrong with this file.

Most likely you have a B6 S4 and you wrote B7 S4 file to your B6 S4 ECU. And then you get errors.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 04, 2025, 11:57:52 PM
It's normal for BBK to have 4E0907560 hardware.
Here is a file I read myself from a S4 B7 with BBK engine. Zero issues with the car of course, because it's an original file.
Also 4E0907560 hardware.

It even uses the same EPK pretty much:

EPK 8E0910560J 0020:
42/1/ME7.1.1/5/C1105G//25F/E5fegh3/040405/
EPK 8E3910560 0020:
42/1/ME7.1.1/5/C1105G//25F/E5fega3/310305/

It is possible there are some differences between B6 and B7 software and they use different hw.
But there is for sure nothing wrong with this file.

Most likely you have a B6 S4 and you wrote B7 S4 file to your B6 S4 ECU. And then you get errors.

I have a 2006 S4B7 BBK. 8E0910560N


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: prj on January 05, 2025, 05:18:20 AM
I have a 2006 S4B7 BBK. 8E0910560N

Post your original file to see what HW it uses.
Most likely HW 8E0907560 and HW 4E0907560 are not compatible and if you cross flash you get errors.

This has nothing to do with belt or chain though, and it does not mean 8E0910560J 0020 or 8E3910560 0020 have any problems.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 05, 2025, 06:31:09 AM
Post your original file to see what HW it uses.
Most likely HW 8E0907560 and HW 4E0907560 are not compatible and if you cross flash you get errors.

This has nothing to do with belt or chain though, and it does not mean 8E0910560J 0020 or 8E3910560 0020 have any problems.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: prj on January 05, 2025, 07:23:05 AM
Your file is also HW 4E0907560 and EPK is 42/1/ME7.1.1/5/C1105G//25F/R5fcgh3/010904/

If you get errors for sensors with 8E0910560J then it can mean that the sensors were changed on BBK at some point and not all software is compatible.
You can also try 8E3910560 that I posted if you want (but it is auto gearbox).

8E0910560J:
0GG = Emission standard EU4

8E0910560N:
0GU = Emission standard EU2 as of MY 01
0GV = Emission standard EU2 (critical vapor pressure)
0GW = Emission standard EU2 for Brazil

So it's possible on EU2 they used different sensors.
Or another option is that your timing is wrong on the engine and on the EU2 software there is less fault detection.

But anyway there is no problem with the file posted here. It is the correct 8E0910560J file.


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: Nik62 on January 05, 2025, 07:43:37 AM
Your file is also HW 4E0907560 and EPK is 42/1/ME7.1.1/5/C1105G//25F/R5fcgh3/010904/

If you get errors for sensors with 8E0910560J then it can mean that the sensors were changed on BBK at some point and not all software is compatible.
You can also try 8E3910560 that I posted if you want (but it is auto gearbox).

8E0910560J:
0GG = Emission standard EU4

8E0910560N:
0GU = Emission standard EU2 as of MY 01
0GV = Emission standard EU2 (critical vapor pressure)
0GW = Emission standard EU2 for Brazil

So it's possible on EU2 they used different sensors.
Or another option is that your timing is wrong on the engine and on the EU2 software there is less fault detection.

But anyway there is no problem with the file posted here. It is the correct 8E0910560J file.

1.Camshaft sensors are the same on all BBK B6\B7 engines, I checked this.
2. Immediately when you turn on the ignition (without starting the engine), an error appears (open or short to + of the camshaft sensors).
3.Synchronization is ok.
4. I wrote down my firmware 8e0910560N, removed the connectors from the camshaft sensors and got the same errors as with firmware 8e0910560J


Title: Re: 8E0910560J - B7 S4 4.2 6spd BBK
Post by: prj on January 05, 2025, 02:27:22 PM
1.Camshaft sensors are the same on all BBK B6\B7 engines, I checked this.
2. Immediately when you turn on the ignition (without starting the engine), an error appears (open or short to + of the camshaft sensors).
3.Synchronization is ok.
4. I wrote down my firmware 8e0910560N, removed the connectors from the camshaft sensors and got the same errors as with firmware 8e0910560J

In this case you can:
a) Compare the two firmwares and check what the difference is.
b) Compare the wiring diagrams for both cars (EU4 and EU2).

Again - there is nothing wrong with the 8E0910560J file here like you say, and your own file has HW 4E0907560 inside. Look at 0x18000.
This is also why a user here had no problems to flash BBK file to A8 4E ECU. Many of the BBK cars are using A8 4E ECU HW from factory, only the SW is different.