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Title: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: jogtx16v on September 30, 2018, 08:03:48 AM I need communauty help to find whats is not good in my setup hardware or if software related issue.
My car is remote tuned by a reputable tuner in usa. ( I will not share or post any tuned file ) I only do datalogging. We just no understand why it pull timing like that. car is on watermeth setup with 91oct aki fuel. car is : 2002 vw with rebuild aww 1.8t. built list : k04 hybride blaast stage 5 turbo (inducer 50.5mm - exducer 60mm - extended tips 63mm) IE rod drop-in 144x19 wastegate actuator high pressure garrett 14-16 psi stock n75 3 bar map sensor with 5120 hack Maf 3'' Downpipe catless 3'' Catback magnaflow 2.5'' High flow exhaust manifold evoms fmic injector 630cc@3bar, stock fuel pump. watermeth aem medium nozzle (-40 windsheild washer in tank) wideband aem DV forge Emission delete pcv valve delete Catch can Coil 2.0t (https://image.ibb.co/mwQquK/42769062_553174868453732_1854358293326069760_n.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/) (https://preview.ibb.co/d0FUoe/IMG_20180511_212144.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hbJRZK) (https://preview.ibb.co/h4sZoe/42378216_921469668038395_3204913233454432256_n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cfo78e) (https://preview.ibb.co/mvrPMz/IMG_20180427_161233.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mJ0Jgz) (https://preview.ibb.co/nO7EMz/IMG_20180722_122243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b46VuK) Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: AARDQ on September 30, 2018, 02:41:56 PM Are you referring to the first photo? That’s not timing pull, that’s fueling adaptation. It’s removing fuel; running slightly rich but well within the ECU’s ability to manage.
Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: vwaudiguy on September 30, 2018, 02:47:37 PM Are you referring to the first photo? That’s not timing pull, that’s fueling adaptation. It’s removing fuel; running slightly rich but well within the ECU’s ability to manage. Pretty sure he's referring to the -6+ degrees of timing pull in the log he attached. I'm guessing Mirza tuned. Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: jogtx16v on September 30, 2018, 03:52:38 PM Are you referring to the first photo? That’s not timing pull, that’s fueling adaptation. It’s removing fuel; running slightly rich but well within the ECU’s ability to manage. I refer to the data log thanks ! its not final tuned but happy its slightly rich for the moment Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: nyet on September 30, 2018, 08:08:26 PM You're going to throw positive deviation eventually with that weird boost request and wgdc lockdown.
Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: AARDQ on September 30, 2018, 08:42:06 PM Pretty sure he's referring to the -6+ degrees of timing pull in the log he attached. I'm guessing Mirza tuned. Doh! For some reason didn’t see that there was an attachment. Mekes loads more sense. Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: Carsinc on October 02, 2018, 11:34:38 PM Seems like you need less timing or more octane/meth!
Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: jogtx16v on October 03, 2018, 06:53:49 PM thank for all for your help.
My meth kit is internal map controller, I will swap to multi-input controller to set IDC... Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: Carsinc on October 03, 2018, 09:31:36 PM Is the iat before or after the meth injector?
Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: jogtx16v on October 04, 2018, 04:25:15 PM Meth injector is 2'' after the MAP sensor, and its before IAT.
Any recommandation on injector setup ? maybe dual injector ? Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: vdubnation on October 04, 2018, 08:53:46 PM You're going to throw positive deviation eventually with that weird boost request and wgdc lockdown. His car is in process of pid tuning and dialing in ignition and out of blue started knocking i think his meth controller isnt working properly. Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: Carsinc on October 04, 2018, 10:31:43 PM Meth injector is 2'' after the MAP sensor, and its before IAT. Any recommandation on injector setup ? maybe dual injector ? I’d put the meth injector right before tb also check the pressures. The amount of timing is pretty spot on for a meth issue Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: jogtx16v on October 05, 2018, 07:17:02 PM I’d put the meth injector right before tb also check the pressures. The amount of timing is pretty spot on for a meth issue I ordered multi-input controller to set meth inject from IDC, I will put meth injecteur just before TB. also I have a new mix, 50/50 by weight distilled water/methyl hydrate. I don't like injecting windsheild washer fluid, its blue -40 but I think it contain soap, I will testing soon thank you ! Title: Re: many timing pull over 5k datalog inside Post by: jogtx16v on October 05, 2018, 07:21:54 PM His car is in process of pid tuning and dialing in ignition and out of blue started knocking i think his meth controller isnt working properly. controller is good, I have another identical new controller in box at home and do same. I will buy the multi-input version to use IDC, I will also try different meth injector size. thank |