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Title: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Cult on February 06, 2019, 07:38:33 AM Hello there i am in the process af swapping my me7.1.1 til me7.5 to go wideband og enable flashing by the obd port.
i have a few spare 4B0906018DH ecu´s and a good file from my buddy´s Audi s3 BAM with 8N0906018CF ecu, I flashed the EEPORM with removed immo over with argdub tool with no problems. but when i flash the ecu with the 8N0906018CF file i gets bricked :( after a bit of searching i stumbled across this http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=658.0 Is there any where i can see what ecu the 8N0906018CF will cross flash on to? Best regards Søren Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: _nameless on February 06, 2019, 07:51:04 AM Late model passat / a4 ecus changed the bootrom. Use a aum or auq ecu
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: IamwhoIam on February 06, 2019, 08:34:57 AM ME7.1.1 on a 1.8T Audi S3? Put the crack pipe down my friend!
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Cult on February 06, 2019, 10:07:55 AM ME7.1.1 on a 1.8T Audi S3? Put the crack pipe down my friend! if its not ME7.1.1 what is it then? its a narrowband, DBW, non vvt with 512kb file Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Cult on February 06, 2019, 10:10:20 AM Late model passat / a4 ecus changed the bootrom. Use a aum or auq ecu Is there any where i can se witch ecu´s can be flashed with the 8N0906018CF file? there are not so many auq/aum ecu´s around here :-\ Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: fknbrkn on February 06, 2019, 11:35:09 AM Any wideband transverse 1.8t
Narrowband 1.8t its also 7.5 btw Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Cult on February 06, 2019, 12:13:46 PM Any wideband transverse 1.8t Narrowband 1.8t its also 7.5 btw Isn’t all me7.5 1024kb? Mine is only at 512kb But if alle traverse ME7.5 will work then it is easier for me to find a ecu Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: dal on February 06, 2019, 12:21:58 PM I dont know if it is bosch official, but people calls this ECU ME7.5.1. My A3 used to have an ECU like this.
In 2017 I made the wideband conversion, now I run an wideband ME7.5.5 032LP ECU with 032HP cross-flashed. Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Blazius on February 06, 2019, 02:00:50 PM Isn’t all me7.5 1024kb? Mine is only at 512kb But if alle traverse ME7.5 will work then it is easier for me to find a ecu Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Nope. my N/a 2000 is me7.5 and its 512 Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 06, 2019, 03:56:52 PM First ME7.5 on B5 facelift DBW,non VVT, with ICM and narowaband.
Can you open ECU and post a picture? Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Blazius on February 06, 2019, 04:08:33 PM First ME7.5 on B5 facelift DBW,non VVT, with ICM and narowaband. Can you open ECU and post a picture? Me? Nope. but here is a pic. (https://i.imgur.com/E0dI3aJ.jpg) Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 06, 2019, 11:32:13 PM My bad, I didn't precise who I'm talking to. I mean can the autor post the inside od his APY ECU.
8D0 906(997) 018Q/K/KX/J/B they all ME7.5 DBW and narowband Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: Cult on February 07, 2019, 01:53:16 AM My bad, I didn't precise who I'm talking to. I mean can the autor post the inside od his APY ECU. 8D0 906(997) 018Q/K/KX/J/B they all ME7.5 DBW and narowband I a few days i will post a few pictures of the inside of the ecu Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: aef on February 07, 2019, 02:31:53 AM What is this all about?
You own a S3 APY with ME7.5 Narrow Band 512kb ecu and you will switch over to wideband 1024kb. okay makes sense. You cant use this passat ecus. Go and buy BAM/AMK or something like this. You can also use AUM ...032HJ. Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 08, 2019, 12:21:14 AM If I want to go from Me7.5 narowband to me 7.5 wideband. Except few wires i need to recconect and instal wideband. What else schould I do?
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: aef on February 08, 2019, 12:44:10 AM There are differences in wiring on some ecus. Car will not start. You will have to adapt immo/change login or immo off the new ecu.
You then will have to kill EGT Sensor, N249 and VVT because your APY does not have this. MAF can be different too. Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 08, 2019, 01:26:17 AM Wiring is not problem for me.
In ECU beside IMMO off... I need in ESKONF kill rear O2,N249,and VVT... (ignition maps)KFZW and KFZW2 make indentical. So is that all? Where to kill EGT? Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: fknbrkn on February 08, 2019, 02:00:01 AM Just immo things and probably codeout vvt
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 08, 2019, 02:42:55 AM Is the dwel time same for old coils(with "amp") a new red coils?
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 09, 2019, 05:33:52 AM Strange DTC i can't ger rid of is 17925/P1517/005399: Power Supply Relay for ECU (J271 or J363): Electrical Malfunction I connected releay (pin 86) to ECU 21, and pin 87 to ECU 121 I Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 09, 2019, 10:59:34 AM On "bench" there is no relay DTC
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzY7kJ3p/20190209-184145.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7dbG01G) And throotle is working, so the problem is somewhere in AYP pinout... Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 11, 2019, 01:33:27 PM i have managed to get it done, car is working fine. I removed few unnecessary wires, and pin 121 is now getting supply from ignition(15). That is solution for this DTC
Code: 17925/P1517/005399: Power Supply Relay for ECU (J271 or J363): Electrical Malfunction I coded out VVT via ESKONF(but there is no need to do it beacuse car can ride normal,even when that DTC is there) and put wideband O2 , and basically that is all If anybody have question fell free to ask ;) Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 19, 2019, 11:35:25 AM Did you remove pin 62 that operates the fans on narrowband as it's the egt signal on wide band? I only know this from doing conversion myself on my old A3 1.8t quattro after converting to k04 and wideband. Now I'm wideband s3 (gave up on a3's body work. Picked up this 2001 s3 for 500 quid fully working minus a few issues and swapped hardware over) I done the full lot apart from adding egt. I added vvt + wideband 02 and maf. It was really easy to do tbh. Coding out shit off the ecu was the hardest part which again is still fairly easy.
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 19, 2019, 11:36:50 AM If.you code out the plugs them selves and eskonf and do timing changes to disable vvt you should have no engine light on at all.
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 19, 2019, 02:58:14 PM Yes i removed pin 62, and few more (i must see in my shematic whitch ones)
Still i am searching how to remove rear O2 and code out VVT. At the end conversation is not that hard, the MAFs are same, acceletor pedal, coils. Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 19, 2019, 03:49:51 PM Just use the search function in this forum it's all here bro. Coding out egt and rear O2 while setting readiness for emissions it's fairly simple to do.
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 19, 2019, 03:52:39 PM If you look on here also their is plenty of examples of people coding out vvt.
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 20, 2019, 02:50:15 PM This is my first time with ME7 ecu, so I take time, go easy and thoroughly. I don't like to do something that I don't undestand.
And at the end, the car is no longer with me. But I am doing AEB to wideband, than i will get the chance to code out all that stuff Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 23, 2019, 11:59:18 AM Hopefully it all goes well for you bro.Best of luck on your project. Plenty of people here that can help if you get stuck.
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 23, 2019, 12:23:10 PM Thank you for your regards :D without this forum nothing of this would't be possible.
I instaled AWT instalation and ECU (DBW) on AEB (DBC) The car is starting and work's fine. But immediately I get DTC camshaft position sensor G40 P0341 I instaled 4 gap rotor, and try few camshaft position sensors. But DTC come back. I will check wires and with osciloscope signal. But before that,did I forget something? Coils,throtle body,O2,MAF,MAP all is instaled from AWP engine. I didn't connect SAI,EVAP,N80 but I think that doesnt't have any influence on DTC I get with camshaft Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 23, 2019, 01:26:32 PM Check the air gap is in spec for the sensor
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 24, 2019, 03:00:18 AM I compare old and new rotor, dimatetar is the same. Heights is 0.4 mm diference so I can say they have same dimensions.
Code: Address 01: Engine Labels: 06B-906-018-AWT.lbl Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 24, 2019, 03:47:32 AM The 0.4 mm difference in height is massive for the air gap for it to work
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 24, 2019, 03:58:18 AM My friend send me pic, 2001 2.7T engine with VVT use one gap rotor. So i instaled back 1 gap rotor from AEB, clear DTC and now everything is alright.
I will see tomorow how it drives Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 24, 2019, 04:14:49 AM Happy days. Hopefully it drives ok
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 24, 2019, 04:19:53 AM I don't think that would solve the problem, i am little bit a sceptic
Etka shows that AWT use different rotor http://www.oemepc.com/vw/part_single/catalog/vw/markt/RDW/modell/PA/year/1997/drive_standart/221/hg_ug/905/subcategory/905050/part_id/3689801/lang/e#sec_10 http://www.oemepc.com/vw/part_single/catalog/vw/markt/RDW/modell/PA/year/2001/drive_standart/226/hg_ug/905/subcategory/905050/part_id/3684077/lang/e#sec_10 but who knows,maybe it will work Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 25, 2019, 10:30:35 AM I will start a new thread, beacuse this will be a long trip :-\
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 25, 2019, 11:16:23 AM Trial and error if the motor is able to run I'd try jt
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 26, 2019, 03:54:21 AM Sometimes it is not necessary to complicate simple things. The problem was simple
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSmK0tj4/picard-facepalm.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 27, 2019, 04:23:52 PM Lol ahh well. Has it done any damage?
Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: BlackT on February 28, 2019, 02:27:38 AM No, the thing is, the timinig belt was off for a half a year. I was driving that car every day and I didn't noticed anything wierd. I can't belive that. Only the MPG was a little bit higher, and the 0-100 from 6.5s to about 7s. The car was driven like a race car. But didn't make any damage, still I can't belive :o
Title: Re: me7.1.1 to me7.5 in audi s3 APY Post by: bororobbo on February 28, 2019, 02:31:23 AM You've been very lucky then wish I was that lucky when shit like that happens to me.
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