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Title: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: error1997 on November 12, 2019, 12:07:54 AM
Hello, all
Firstly I would like to appogise for the vagcom logs and cracked ols  ;D . Recently I tried to tune k04-15 but ran into the issue of closing throttle .
Of course I read all the topics about the same problem but all of them had severe overboost . Mine doesn't , at least from what I can tell from the logs .
I tried stupid things like modifying KFWDKMSN and its inverse but to nobodies surprise it did not help . Also tried maxing KFLDHBN , KFDLULS and zeroing correction from KFTARX , again no results .
The only correlation that I think I have found is that after 150g/s the throttle closes , does not depend on rpm , iat or boost . I may be wrong though .
Logs and ols attached below , any help would be appreciated


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: BlackT on November 12, 2019, 12:30:35 AM
Bad tuned KFMIRL and KFMIOP


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: fknbrkn on November 12, 2019, 01:00:12 AM
Lol never saw 120c iat before


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: error1997 on November 12, 2019, 02:32:21 AM
Bad tuned KFMIRL and KFMIOP
How should I tune them ?From what I know KFMIOP should be inverse of KFMIRL and vice versa . I use excel to calculate KFMIOP to be inverse of KFMIRL , and it is correctly working (calculated KFMIOP from a stock file has a percent difference below 1% for the most part , pic attached below) . Also the request of load in KFMIRL is high enough . 

Lol never saw 120c iat before
Bad dyno cooling FTW


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: soul87 on November 12, 2019, 02:49:25 AM
what was the reason of editing

KFWDKMSN
KFMSNWDK
KFDMDARO
KFDMDAROS
KFDMDADP
???

KFMIOP and KFMIRL looks good.


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: error1997 on November 12, 2019, 03:47:45 AM
what was the reason of editing
KFWDKMSN
KFMSNWDK
KFDMDARO
KFDMDAROS
KFDMDADP
???
KFMIOP and KFMIRL looks good.

Desperate times require desperate measures or in other words I had wrong understanding of them .


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: BlackT on November 12, 2019, 04:17:58 AM
Why don't you use Me7logger?   
Is that file from first post your stock file, or the file you are using right now?
As I can see from this poor VCDS log, there is a tourqe invertion, what is often caused by bad tuned KFMIRL and KFMIOP


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: soul87 on November 12, 2019, 04:30:39 AM
Revert back to stock not needed maps.  Flash it, send me the file that You flashed and send me the logs, (You can send it by PW - VCDS logs for me are ok )



Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: error1997 on November 12, 2019, 07:10:57 AM
Version 7 is for LOG-110-115-118
Version 8 is for LOG-110-114-2

Why don't you use Me7logger?   

The car is at a another town , and I use a friend to flash and log it , did not bother to explain me7logger to him , though vcds would be enough for tune for k04


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: nyet on November 12, 2019, 08:29:22 AM
though vcds would be enough for tune for k04

It isn't.


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: nyet on November 12, 2019, 08:30:39 AM
Desperate times require desperate measures or in other words I had wrong understanding of them .

Revert everything to stock that you do not understand.


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: sonique on November 12, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
problem run out the injector and very high iat
fix this problems and try again


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: Blazius on November 12, 2019, 11:41:37 AM
Lol never saw 120c iat before

Really? Thats like half of self ignition temp for gasoline lol


Title: Re: A4 B6 1.8T K04-15 Returnless Closing throttle after 150g/s
Post by: nyet on November 12, 2019, 11:49:48 AM
yea i'd say that iat sensor is hosed, unless thats F :)