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Noob Zone => Noob Questions => Topic started by: marcosandujar8 on February 14, 2020, 08:57:03 AM



Title: max KFZW??
Post by: marcosandujar8 on February 14, 2020, 08:57:03 AM
Good day, happy day of love and friendship.

This is my first map sorry if my question is very basic, I tried to read as much as I could to learn everything I needed.

I'm curious to know how much I can add on the map kfzw (what is the limit), as I read kfzwop is only used as a reference, but can I have higher values ​​in kfzw? my engine is a 1.8t with the acute head which has no vvt but I have read to modify in the ecu so that I do not throw the error that I am missing this, I want to do it in the dyno to be able to test the car which will already be next week and by the way I would like to fix any problem I have in kfzw or increase it more if I can still do it

my map
(https://scontent.fhex4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/86230409_10158131413913832_8529378881726054400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=3hs5ZSpMXs0AX8G8V2H&_nc_ht=scontent.fhex4-1.fna&oh=4e7939ddbf794f20e7f2a9dc65cb9cb1&oe=5ECD9B80)

base map
(https://scontent.fhex4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/86268527_10158131413843832_1541145896299790336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=rg0fvoW2BxUAX9UQVTY&_nc_ht=scontent.fhex4-1.fna&oh=7aa9502f8430d477cb15dfea025436e3&oe=5EB91240)

diference
(https://scontent.fhex4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/85174780_10158131413848832_777707548106031104_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ohc=PygSzDsXP3IAX9609WW&_nc_ht=scontent.fhex4-1.fna&oh=452bc78ee84f0bbb5106b60cec806c52&oe=5EBF07C3)

kfzwop
(https://scontent.fhex4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/86273360_10158131413858832_593032063276285952_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=Dnoz6THVV6sAX-PincS&_nc_ht=scontent.fhex4-2.fna&oh=06d7e3ca98ce8af18ee34501f47692a6&oe=5EB5E9AF)


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: _nameless on February 14, 2020, 09:27:22 AM
umm yikes. if the ecu actually commanded that timing at full load youd chuck a rod outa the side of the block


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: _nameless on February 14, 2020, 09:31:06 AM
have you even looked at how much timing the ecu is pulling? max advance on pump fuel at redline at best youd be about 22* max. youre asking questions that the car will answer for you if you actually data logged. id bet that ecu is pulling 12* almost all the time


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: marcosandujar8 on February 14, 2020, 09:46:27 AM
have you even looked at how much timing the ecu is pulling? max advance on pump fuel at redline at best youd be about 22* max. youre asking questions that the car will answer for you if you actually data logged. id bet that ecu is pulling 12* almost all the time

yes, 12


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: marcosandujar8 on February 14, 2020, 09:48:35 AM
have you even looked at how much timing the ecu is pulling? max advance on pump fuel at redline at best youd be about 22* max. youre asking questions that the car will answer for you if you actually data logged. id bet that ecu is pulling 12* almost all the time

Sorry if I ask very basic questions, it is my first map and my native language is not English. How could I get more than 12?


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: nyet on February 14, 2020, 09:57:51 AM
I'd put away the laptop and read some books on EFI first.


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: fknbrkn on February 14, 2020, 10:07:05 AM
Brilliant thread


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: IamwhoIam on February 14, 2020, 01:57:36 PM
Is this a troll thread?


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: dilly on February 15, 2020, 05:00:26 PM
what xdf are you using???


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: marcosandujar8 on February 16, 2020, 05:11:23 AM
I'm so sorry, I didn't expect to be teased. I just expected to receive guidance. it is obvious that I must read much more


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: _nameless on February 16, 2020, 08:12:57 AM
I'm so sorry, I didn't expect to be teased. I just expected to receive guidance. it is obvious that I must read much more
A general understanding of efi is needed mate. Making random changes to a whole ignition table is bad tuning. Yove effectively butchard the ignition table. Not even on e85 would I run that much timing. Google MBT and you'll understand why. Questions are OK if youve done some level of self research but your lack of understanding is at a level that you need to do more reading before you publicly ask more questions.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9AlTN-WfgmnN2huYjhaRnJFcGs/view?usp=drivesdk
Download and read this to start


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: marcosandujar8 on February 19, 2020, 10:48:16 AM
A general understanding of efi is needed mate. Making random changes to a whole ignition table is bad tuning. Yove effectively butchard the ignition table. Not even on e85 would I run that much timing. Google MBT and you'll understand why. Questions are OK if youve done some level of self research but your lack of understanding is at a level that you need to do more reading before you publicly ask more questions.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9AlTN-WfgmnN2huYjhaRnJFcGs/view?usp=drivesdk
Download and read this to start



thank you very much brother


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: marcosandujar8 on February 19, 2020, 10:50:45 AM
therefore I returned to factory settings, I would not like to blow my engine


Title: Re: max KFZW??
Post by: dal on February 19, 2020, 12:18:15 PM
therefore I returned to factory settings, I would not like to blow my engine

+1 karma for this.