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Title: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 23, 2020, 10:00:05 PM Hello guys. Have a problem, I tried to swap cluster to a rs4 in my 98 s4b5. Made a new wire harness. Problem now is that rpm does not work, jumps up and up, very stacky, never returns. Why ? I have no canbus in my oem harness, but don't find any in new cluster either.
Also the speedo is weird, after 140 km/h it jumps to 180 and when you go to standstill, the speedo is still stuck on 40 km/h. Tried to wire canbus from ecu (rs4 ecu) to enviroment unit but no difference. Thanks Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b6 Post by: BlackT on June 23, 2020, 11:21:53 PM RS4 B6, that car does not Exist ::)
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: adam- on June 24, 2020, 06:17:44 AM Can you do an output test on VCDS? Possbly had the needles off in the past and they have been seated too deeply, causing them to stick. An output test will show this.
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 24, 2020, 07:40:41 AM Yep have tried it, and removed needles.. they're working in vcds
Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: BlackT on June 24, 2020, 08:03:15 AM See tru VCDS do you have good reading of RPM and KMH in measuring blocks
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 24, 2020, 08:15:05 AM Km/h have i not checked, but rpm yes steady value and react as it should, and if i connect the old cluster with only the blue connector (the one with power and rpm signal) it works.
I have also tried change the rpm motor in the cluster from my old cluster, and my old still works fine Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Fazi on June 24, 2020, 11:03:18 PM Hello guys. Have a problem, I tried to swap cluster to a rs4 in my 98 s4b5. Made a new wire harness. Problem now is that rpm does not work, jumps up and up, very stacky, never returns. Why ? I have no canbus in my oem harness, but don't find any in new cluster either. Also the speedo is weird, after 140 km/h it jumps to 180 and when you go to standstill, the speedo is still stuck on 40 km/h. Tried to wire canbus from ecu (rs4 ecu) to enviroment unit but no difference. Thanks what is the value in Adaptation -->Chanel 60? can you attach dump from instruments? have you swapped pins between the plugins? pinout of both counters is different Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 24, 2020, 11:42:05 PM Will check tonight, I suppose you mean in vcds yes?
Yes i have switched pinouts. Only thing isn't working is oil sensor, havent wired it cause i have s4 engine harness Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Fazi on June 25, 2020, 01:39:01 AM Will check tonight, I suppose you mean in vcds yes? Yes i have switched pinouts. Only thing isn't working is oil sensor, havent wired it cause i have s4 engine harness Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Yes vcds. I can turn off the oil sensor in dump. Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: prj on June 25, 2020, 02:16:36 AM On RS4 cluster RPM comes from CAN.
On 1998 it comes direct from wire. Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 25, 2020, 02:32:10 AM So prj, isn't it possible to get to work?
If i have ecu from rs4 and cluster, i cant find CAN in in cluster ? Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Fazi on June 25, 2020, 05:45:24 AM So prj, isn't it possible to get to work? If i have ecu from rs4 and cluster, i cant find CAN in in cluster ? Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk you need to recode channel adaptation 60 to value "0" Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 25, 2020, 12:32:10 PM I already had value 0..
Will send full scan soon. Alot faultcodes but one I found intresting, cliffhanger Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Fazi on June 25, 2020, 01:19:45 PM attach eeprom. I will check if the indicator maps are correct.
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 25, 2020, 01:30:40 PM haven't scan eeprom before so I will have to check how first.
i have vcds, nefmoto, vagtacho this is also my first time with nefmoto.. most of the faultcodes are because my harness from pre facelift s4b5. so i dont have like SAI and so on. But CAN message and overboost is my biggest problem. i also notice speed sensor error, but not with old cluster ? performancetest also fail, rpm needle stucks at max rpm and km/h goes all the way then stops at 100km/h >:( Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: adam- on June 25, 2020, 10:59:37 PM Needles should sweep full range and then come back to centre.
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on June 25, 2020, 11:15:23 PM Thanks adam, then thw km/h needle is working correct
Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: macxxx on June 26, 2020, 01:05:34 PM Needles should sweep full range and then come back to centre. The needels after full sweep should stop at 3000 rpm , speed 100 km/h or 60 mph Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on May 11, 2021, 01:36:25 PM Hey again, post is old but yeah..
Still haven't solve this. Line 60 in vcds I have tried 0 and 1025 and 1027, nothing. Also tried 4 cyl and 6,8 cyl, nothing. The rpm is very 'jerky' in vcds output test, and does not return. And now I also have a standalone ecu, but i have activated can audi 7.5, that maxxecu say will work with can cars. For the record, i got a 98 s4 with rs4 00 cluster Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Fazi on May 14, 2021, 06:20:20 AM Hey again, post is old but yeah.. Still haven't solve this. Line 60 in vcds I have tried 0 and 1025 and 1027, nothing. Also tried 4 cyl and 6,8 cyl, nothing. The rpm is very 'jerky' in vcds output test, and does not return. And now I also have a standalone ecu, but i have activated can audi 7.5, that maxxecu say will work with can cars. For the record, i got a 98 s4 with rs4 00 cluster Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Add dump Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on May 14, 2021, 06:52:06 AM Eeprom? Can't connect, using eeprom 1.19, don't know why
Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: macxxx on May 14, 2021, 10:26:00 PM I guess cable/driver issue. What cluster are you trying to connect?
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on May 17, 2021, 09:27:28 PM Im using the vag tacho cable and drivers to that.
The rs4 cluster Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: macxxx on May 17, 2021, 09:47:19 PM Vagtacho is crap , use kkl cable
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on May 17, 2021, 09:56:50 PM I have genuine vcds on the other computer, maybe I should try install 1.19 on that one and vcds kable
Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: macxxx on May 22, 2021, 11:06:32 PM Kkl is really cheap so just buy one ;)
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on August 19, 2021, 02:08:51 AM Update guys!
I have now wired a oil level sensor to cluster and it works. And then I wired canbus from my standalone ecu, the rpm didn't work, bought another cluster from facelift b5 and it did work. So, something else than the rpm potentiometer is faulty. So then I did it simple, got the eeprom 1.19 to work with a kkl kable, and I changed the milage on the new cluster. And I moved over the cluster faces(?) So I got the rs4 boards in the a4 cluster. New problem. The km/h on a4 goes to 280 and rs4 310 km/h. I thought i could just read the rs4 eeprom and write to a4 cluster and I did, don't know yet if it shows the correct speed because yeah I have to drive like 250 km/h for it to show. But what I have noticed is that the trip meter is way of, took a drive this morning for about 15 kilometers and the trip said 65 kilometers, but the speedo said I traveled in 40km/h and I did. Can I not write eeprom from rs4 to a a4 cluster ? Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: macxxx on August 19, 2021, 02:35:01 AM Upload your S4 dump i can edit IT for you - you should only change scale note the whole dump
Wysłane z mojego RMX3081 przy użyciu Tapatalka Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on August 19, 2021, 03:26:47 AM okey!
This is the working cluster Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Rs4b5limo96 on August 19, 2021, 03:28:09 AM and this is my rs4 cluster
Title: Re: Cluster swap s4 b5 -> rs4 b5 Post by: Fazi on August 23, 2021, 01:04:48 PM try now
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