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Title: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on July 14, 2020, 11:15:38 AM
Hello everyone,

Lets say I run the last row of KFLDIMX to 95% (at the height of my noobness ::)), and I have a BoostPID I-Max of 100 throughout a WOT.
And stock LDIATA.

Can this kill the N75 Valve? Perhaps over a period of some time?
Thanks, has this happened in anyones experience?

Basically the car will jerk at any boost level above stock but removing the actuator hose to the N75 fixes the issue.

Thanks


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: nyet on July 14, 2020, 02:36:20 PM
it's a solenoid. 95% is mechanically equivalent to static, but less chances of burning out your coils (which don't like DC)


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on July 15, 2020, 03:17:13 AM
it's a solenoid. 95% is mechanically equivalent to static, but less chances of burning out your coils (which don't like DC)

Ah I see so basically it can kill the N75 if set to 95 on the last row and used over a long period like a few spirited 50km drives.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: BlackT on July 15, 2020, 04:35:10 AM
If you run 50 km at 95% DC at N75, that would be driving at Vmax all that period. Where are you going to drive 50 km at Vmax?


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on July 15, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
If you run 50 km at 95% DC at N75, that would be driving at Vmax all that period. Where are you going to drive 50 km at Vmax?

Ah that makes sense, which means my N75 dying was a normal progression of the wear and tear on car parts. I was thinking to blame my idiotic KFLDIMX settings but I guess now I know better.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: nyet on July 15, 2020, 03:38:53 PM
95% will not kill the n75

100% will kill SOME solenoids, but I have heard that you can run the n75 safely at >95%



Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: fknbrkn on July 16, 2020, 01:56:39 AM
I've seen some street cars running with 100% DC for years
No reason but they're fine


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on July 16, 2020, 03:39:31 AM
95% will not kill the n75

100% will kill SOME solenoids, but I have heard that you can run the n75 safely at >95%



Ah I see. Phew thanks, now I can peacefully work on the hardware of my car.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on July 16, 2020, 03:40:23 AM
I've seen some street cars running with 100% DC for years
No reason but they're fine

Thanks for sharing from your experience.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: nyet on July 16, 2020, 01:08:45 PM
Thanks for sharing from your experience.

Running 100% DC is a bad habit to have. Don't do it.

You may get away with it on some ECUs some of the time. That doesn't mean it's ok.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on July 21, 2020, 03:12:20 AM
Running 100% DC is a bad habit to have. Don't do it.

You may get away with it on some ECUs some of the time. That doesn't mean it's ok.




Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: automan001 on December 02, 2020, 05:42:59 AM
If turbocharger is capable produce more boost you can slightly tighten WG spring or put a stronger spring and you won't need 100% DC anymore. After this change maximum you would need 80-90%


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on December 02, 2020, 05:51:03 AM
If turbocharger is capable produce more boost you can slightly tighten WG spring or put a stronger spring and you won't need 100% DC anymore. After this change maximum you would need 80-90%

Thanks a lot for the information.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: nyet on December 02, 2020, 09:52:46 AM
As an aside 100% DC (duty cycle) is literally DC (direct current).

Do not put direct current through solenoids. It is that simple.


Title: Re: BoostPID I-Max of 100 & N75 life question
Post by: armaan on December 03, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
As an aside 100% DC (duty cycle) is literally DC (direct current).

Do not put direct current through solenoids. It is that simple.

Thats a brilliantly simple explanation. Thanks.