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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: xxx8indxxx on April 21, 2012, 04:42:42 PM



Title: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 21, 2012, 04:42:42 PM
ok i have a aeb 558m ecu i zero,ed out 07cd1 and 07cd0 to disable the codeword for  lambda sensor heating  it says cdhsv=0 no diagnosis     but i still get the 1196 and 1198 dtc oxygen sensor heater circuit malfunction am i disabling the wrong dtc or just not changing all the locations in the file ?


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: masterj on April 21, 2012, 04:49:37 PM
ok i have a aeb 558m ecu i zero,ed out 07cd1 and 07cd0 to disable the codeword for  lambda sensor heating  it says cdhsv=0 no diagnosis     but i still get the 1196 and 1198 dtc oxygen sensor heater circuit malfunction am i disabling the wrong dtc or just not changing all the locations in the file ?

basically you have zeroed out the readliness check and thats it. You'll have to zero out also error classes. BUT if this DTC forces ecu into soft limp then you're out of luck, because zeroeing out error class doesn't remove it's effects only DTC itselft ;)


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 21, 2012, 05:43:07 PM
would i need to disable the codeword tester   or  the debounce error or the error lamp  i am new to tuning but i cant find much on the m5.92 ecu,s   there is plenty of info about the  m7 ecu's  so i am sort of lost


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 21, 2012, 07:11:21 PM
That's because 7CD1 and 7CD0 are map addresses for me3.8.2 (clemens file), they will be in a different address on m5.9.2.

Try this addresses, 77C5 and 77C4. I "think" this are the addresses that correspond to the 7CD1 and 7CD0.

77C5 (5.9.2) has a value of 01 = 7CD1 (3.8.2) has 00.
77C4 (5.9.2) and 7CD0 (3.8.2) both have 01 values.

**** Please use this addresses with caution, I haven't tried them, mainly because my CEL light is unplugged lol ****

BUT if this DTC forces ecu into soft limp then you're out of luck, because zeroeing out error class doesn't remove it's effects only DTC itselft ;)

In my AEB (557P and 557N) unplugging both o2 sensors would only zero out fuel trims, no change to fuel or ignition timing. So no soft limp.



Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 22, 2012, 05:54:53 AM
thankyou i will try them the last time i tried to edit my file my car would cut fuel bad lol but it was a learning experience


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 22, 2012, 06:11:53 AM
77c4 is a 23 already and  77c5 is a 00


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 22, 2012, 06:28:30 AM
77c4 is a 23 already and  77c5 is a 00

What file are you using?

Forgot to mention that I'm using a 577P (m5.9.2) file, values are "01" for both addresses. Your 558M might also have different map addresses.


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 22, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
my file is a 8d0907558m


i also have a 8d0907557p but everytime i try to write it gives me security access denied any idea?


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 22, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
the ecu i am using right now is the 558m


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 22, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
the 557p file i have is the same as the 558m file at these locations 77c4 is a 23 already and  77c5 is a 00


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 22, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
The file you posted is a 5.9.2, but the addresses are different, from the 5.9.2 557P I'm using. (you'll see this in the potential maps of winols, it shows the 16x16, 16x12 maps at different addresses)

I'm using the 1997 577P file from here:

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1579.0;attach=2321

With your 558M file, I couldn't find the address that resembles the lambda cel in the 3.8.2.

*Does your 558M have a speed limiter? Right around 215kmh/130mph?


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 23, 2012, 05:55:40 AM
i honestly couldnt tell you i dont think i went past 110mph in it lol


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 23, 2012, 05:58:09 AM
i wish i could write to my 557p ecu i could use that file but file 557p wont let me it says security access denied


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 23, 2012, 06:32:46 AM
Immobilizer?

Did you try flashing it off the car. (ie. plugged directly to the MPPS and an external 12v source). If that doesn't work, either your ecu is busted or your MPPS is old or doesn't work right.

Mine writes just fine using MPPS v12 via obd.

Currently using a 557N ECU with a 557P file written on it. So far so good @30psi/8000rpm.


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 23, 2012, 09:48:32 AM
my mpps is ver 12 and it works fine on all my other ecu's the only way i flash is bench flash

will the 557p file work in my 558m if i change the ecu numbers in my file to match?


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 24, 2012, 12:43:46 PM
well i flashed a 557p file on to my 558m ecu it runs fine just waiting to see if the dtc for my 02 sensor heater circuit malfunction goes away


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 25, 2012, 04:39:04 AM
Which 557P file did you use? I got 3 revisions, with filename D02/D04/D06. If I remember correctly the D06 had different addresses.


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 25, 2012, 04:50:02 AM
i used the d02 revision and i disabled   77C5 and 77C4 but i still got the dtc for them lol  such a small problem  causes such a big headache lol


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 25, 2012, 11:31:55 AM
You only posted 2 addresses, I remember seeing a lot more than 2, for lambda probe diagnostics.

Look at the 3.8.2 file again, the one in German (the one you translated). List all the lambda diagnostics, lamp etc etc. Basically you need to read and translate all diagnostics and lamp, and figure out which are for the o2/lambda probe.

Post them here, gona try to locate them on the 5.9.2



Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 25, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
"$ 07CD1;" codeword heater diagnosis behind Kat (CDHSH = 0 => no diagnosis )"";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07CD0," "code word before the catalytic converter in the heater diagnosis (CDHSV = 0 => no
"$ 0783E;" codeword tester: lambda probe heating catalyst behind "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07 842," "codeword tester: lambda probe heating behind Cat" "Bank 2 "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 0783C"; "codeword tester: lambda probe heater front catalyst "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07 840," "codeword tester: Lambda probe heating before Kat" "Bank 2 "";"" 1x1"
"$ 07 864," "codeword tester: Lambda probe before Kat "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07 866," "codeword tester: oxygen sensor 2 before Kat "";"" 1x1"
"$ 07A11;" debounce error: lambda probe heating catalyst behind "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A13;" debounce error: lambda probe heating catalyst behind "Bank 2 "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07A10;" debounce error: lambda probe heater front catalyst "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A12;" debounce error: lambda probe heater front catalyst "Bank 2 "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 079FE," "debounce error amplifier EKP "";"" 1x1" ""

"$ 07A24;" debounce error: lambda probe before Kat "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A25;" debounce error: lambda probe 2 before Kat "";"" 1x1 ""
"$ 07A58;" Debounce healing: Lambda probe heating catalyst behind "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A5A," "healing debounce: Lambda probe heating catalyst behind" Bank 2 "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A57;" Debounce healing: Lambda probe heating before catalyst "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A59;" Debounce healing: oxygen sensor heater before catalytic converter "" bank "";"" two 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A45;" Debounce Healing: EKP amplifier "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A6B," "Debounce healing: oxygen sensor before the catalytic converter "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07A6C," "Debounce healing: oxygen sensor 2 before Kat "";"" 1x1" "
$ 07A9F," "Error -> Lamp: Lambda probe heating catalyst behind "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07AA1," "Error -> Lamp: Lambda probe heating catalyst behind" Bank 2 "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07A9E," "Error -> Lamp: Lambda probe heating before catalyst "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07AA0," "Error -> Lamp: Lambda probe heating before catalyst" Bank 2 "";"" 1x1 "" "
"$ 07AB2," "Error -> Lamp: Lambda probe before Kat "";"" 1x1" ""
"$ 07AB3," "Error -> Lamp: Lambda probe 2 before Kat "";"" 1x1" ""


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 25, 2012, 04:26:51 PM
the way i understood all you needed to do os disable  cdhsh and cdhsv


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on April 26, 2012, 05:01:33 AM
Looks like your right.

But if you read the s4 wiki, there's more to disabling lambda DTC.

783C / E / 40 / 42 - No exact match that has the same exact combination of values. Removing 783C makes the values too common (00 FF 00 FF 00)

7A10 / 11 / 12 / 13 - values too common (all values 14)

7A57 / 58 / 59 / 5A - also too common (all values 14)

Stopped here. Sorry not much help.. :-\


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 26, 2012, 05:07:17 AM
i appreciate that  you even gave it some of your time i will eventually figure it out i compared may files  in the last week but the offset is what  messes it up all aeb files are close i guess  when i figure out the offset i can find the location to disable    if this was m7 i could read the file from my car before and after it came on and find its location but i have a wonderful aeb lol


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 28, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
well i killed the code for  o2 heaters now i got checksum dtc and kat below threshhole bank 1 lol just cant win lol


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on April 28, 2012, 01:55:08 PM
do you rem what 3,8,3 file you was compating the 557p ver 02  against?


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on May 02, 2012, 08:06:36 AM
I just re-read this. I assume the CEL you were getting after zeroing 77c4 and 77c5 was for checksum.

So 77C4 and 77C5 worked?


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: bckslyr2003 on May 02, 2012, 08:14:01 AM
YeA my hex editor   corrected the checksum wrong lol but now I got a dtc for cat below  threshold


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: ricekikr on May 06, 2012, 11:26:04 PM
I just tried 77C4 and 77C5. It does work but doesn't completely remove codes related to o2 sensor.

77C4 and 77C5 - is for:

17604 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heater Circuit: B1 S1: Electrical Malfunction
17606 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heater Circuit: B1 S2: Electrical Malfunction

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It doesn't remove these codes, so removing the sensor will still definitely give you a code for the ff:

16518 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: No Activity
        P0134 - 35-00 - -
16524 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: No Activity
        P0140 - 35-00 - -


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: xxx8indxxx on May 24, 2012, 05:23:34 AM
i still leave mine pluged in  the codes you have are for the oxygen sensor signal you need to leave them plugged in  the codes i disabled are for the 02 heaters     not the signal for the 02  ill look for the location to disable the bank 2 o2 sensor  signal dtc to disable it   you need the bank one sensor  i beleieve that one is important 


Title: Re: what am i doing wrong?
Post by: Carlos on September 27, 2018, 05:00:12 AM
I managed to delete rear O2 in M5.9.2

If you're still looking for that info, PM me.