Title: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on May 10, 2012, 07:05:50 AM Hi
Any help finding ldrxn/zk http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1932.0title= Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on May 11, 2012, 12:00:02 AM have found
KFMIRL/IOP KFZWOP/2 LAMFA not sure 1A24F? still cant see LDRXN/ZK? Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: IamwhoIam on May 11, 2012, 03:19:39 AM what sort of n00b looks for ldrxn in a normally aspirated file, please tell me???
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on May 12, 2012, 12:53:39 AM what sort of n00b looks for ldrxn in a normally aspirated file, please tell me??? well my understanding of ME7 would mean that the ecu still uses LOAD too control how the power is delivered, so the limiting maps for load would mean that LDRXN/ZK would still be in play even in a NA car or am I far off base here? doesnt make sense that IRL/IOP would be there and not have knock control in place? Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on May 12, 2012, 01:33:20 AM anyone able to tell me what maps these are for?
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 03, 2012, 10:59:36 AM digging this up again because I am doing a supercharger conversion on the v8 so I am going to have to tune it properly. I am trying to define kfzw I think its somewhere near address 11DE6 but I am not 100% sure the other ols files I have are all turbo based cars so the timing would be completely different.
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 09, 2012, 04:28:58 AM anyone?
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: Bische on October 09, 2012, 07:30:01 PM This is just a guess on my side but, I believe all of those in your picture are KFZW's because this engine has both VVT (sy_nws) and intake manifold flaps(sy_su).
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 09, 2012, 10:37:40 PM thanks, how would I find out for sure? I cant see any v8 damos/kps lying around anywhere and I am nearly done building the manifold for the supercharger so I am going to have to put a file together for this car which will include tuning around removal of the intake flap etc
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 09, 2012, 10:47:10 PM OK found the RS6 file I will have a look at that and see if there are any similarities.
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: Bische on October 10, 2012, 12:14:00 AM thanks, how would I find out for sure? I cant see any v8 damos/kps lying around anywhere and I am nearly done building the manifold for the supercharger so I am going to have to put a file together for this car which will include tuning around removal of the intake flap etc I would read up on all the functions involved in the SU, likely you can kill the functions and thus the lookup on some of the KFZW's. Then log zwgru and compare to the tables in the file to determine which ones you should be altering at what point. Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 16, 2012, 11:09:41 PM guys anyone have a damos for this file, the rs6 file doesnt have the intake flaps and although has helped me locate some maps I am still having a hard time defining all the maps I need. please help!
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: prj on October 17, 2012, 05:41:28 AM I really think you should not be attempting tuning a N/A engine with a supercharger or turbo if you don't have a very good grasp on ME7. This is not exactly a stage 1 tune, you must understand the ECU very well.
As pointed out before, there are no LDRXN maps because LDR stands for Lader or turbocharger, which is obviously a characteristic map for an engine equipped with one. On the N/A version the maximum attainable filling at 100% throttle plate comes from RLVMXN and RLVSMXN. If SY_TURBO=1 this gets switched to rlmax, which is the maximum attainable filling in case of a turbo engine. LDRXN has pretty much nothing to do with knock control, except for the "continuous knock" case where filling via turbo can be reduced or increased based on a threshold. But the N/A ECU does not have a turbo, so this is not needed. Saying "help damos" is not going to get you anywhere. Better start posting the names of the maps you have located and which you need locating. Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 18, 2012, 10:52:40 PM I really think you should not be attempting tuning a N/A engine with a supercharger or turbo if you don't have a very good grasp on ME7. This is not exactly a stage 1 tune, you must understand the ECU very well. As pointed out before, there are no LDRXN maps because LDR stands for Lader or turbocharger, which is obviously a characteristic map for an engine equipped with one. On the N/A version the maximum attainable filling at 100% throttle plate comes from RLVMXN and RLVSMXN. If SY_TURBO=1 this gets switched to rlmax, which is the maximum attainable filling in case of a turbo engine. LDRXN has pretty much nothing to do with knock control, except for the "continuous knock" case where filling via turbo can be reduced or increased based on a threshold. But the N/A ECU does not have a turbo, so this is not needed. Saying "help damos" is not going to get you anywhere. Better start posting the names of the maps you have located and which you need locating. I was pointed in the right direction regarding LDRXN right in the beginning (which was posted quite awhile back already) yes I am no expert but have managed to tune my k04 hybrid thanks to help on here so I am not a complete noob when it comes to me7. You know its replies like yours that actually make me want to stop contributing to this site, this is the first time I have asked for a damos and only because I wasnt getting any clear responses to my previous posts. Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: prj on October 19, 2012, 01:51:29 AM You know its replies like yours that actually make me want to stop contributing to this site, this is the first time I have asked for a damos and only because I wasnt getting any clear responses to my previous posts. Don't you think that making such dramatic statements is a little bit funny, considering that more than 90% of your posts is asking questions about information?Don't take me wrong, but please stop acting like a sissy... I just thought that your chances at succeeding at this are pretty low, if you can't find maps via ASM and do not have a very good grasp of the FR, as a lot of things have to be recalibrated to have a well drivable N/A -> FI swap and you won't find all of them via a hex editor. This statement was made because you have not even done the work of posting which maps you are unable to find, so it's impossible to help you. It is very likely that no one even has an exact DAMOS for the engine, and no one is going to ever find "everything" for you anyway, so your best hope is asking for exact map locations that you need. However, you won't know what you need, unless you understand the FR and know what you have to tune to get this working. Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 19, 2012, 02:18:34 AM Don't you think that making such dramatic statements is a little bit funny, considering that more than 90% of your posts is asking questions about information? Don't take me wrong, but please stop acting like a sissy... I just thought that your chances at succeeding at this are pretty low, if you can't find maps via ASM and do not have a very good grasp of the FR, as a lot of things have to be recalibrated to have a well drivable N/A -> FI swap and you won't find all of them via a hex editor. This statement was made because you have not even done the work of posting which maps you are unable to find, so it's impossible to help you. It is very likely that no one even has an exact DAMOS for the engine, and no one is going to ever find "everything" for you anyway, so your best hope is asking for exact map locations that you need. However, you won't know what you need, unless you understand the FR and know what you have to tune to get this working. I didnt expect to get the tune 100% first time and my initial plan was too back out timing and ensure fueling is on par with the new airflow and then work on the tune from there and as with everyone we all have to start somewhere and the whole basis behind what I believe everyone is trying to do here is make as much tuning knowlede available to all. I am sure you started by asking questions too. Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: prj on October 19, 2012, 05:31:09 AM I am sure you started by asking questions too. Actually I did not. I started with the 2.2T engine and figured shit out on my own without any help.Does your MAF even flow enough for your HP target? Do you have logging working on the ECU? Do you have all the other hardware in place? Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 21, 2012, 11:30:41 PM Actually I did not. I started with the 2.2T engine and figured shit out on my own without any help. So then why bother with this site? Your attitude towards others who may not know as much as you do sucks and is general unhelpful, so why bother replying in the first place? Does your MAF even flow enough for your HP target? Do you have logging working on the ECU? Do you have all the other hardware in place? Yes, Yes and no I am busy with the build and part of that process is making sure I am ready/able to start tuning when I do the first start. The manifold is nearing completion and everything else with regards to the build is on track. Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 22, 2012, 03:10:28 AM @prj sorry just ignore my posts, I am just a little frustrated at not being able to locate the map definitions myself. I will work through it.
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: prj on October 22, 2012, 05:10:11 AM At least give us a list of maps you need, as I said, at this point it is impossible to help you.
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 22, 2012, 06:54:59 AM At least give us a list of maps you need, as I said, at this point it is impossible to help you. Thats the thing I dont know what some of them would be called, for example there looks like there are some timing maps linked too the intake flaps and then the map that controls that intake flap which the Rs6 doenst have. Basically I would need maps for injectors temin 13FEA? tvub 13FF4? krkte 1FB68? timing maps kfzw kfzw_2? 11E3B kfzw_? (not sure how many timing maps there are in the v8) kfzwop? Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 22, 2012, 07:27:58 AM lamfa 26DC0?
kflbts 19542? kfpedr 15D44? kfpedl 15BC4? Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 22, 2012, 07:33:39 AM not sure what starts at 11074 looks like some sort of timing map?
Title: Re: 8E0910560D map help Post by: airtite on October 22, 2012, 09:53:02 AM anything else you can think of that I should be looking for?
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