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Noob Zone => Noob Questions => Topic started by: razor1199 on April 24, 2021, 12:56:31 PM



Title: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: razor1199 on April 24, 2021, 12:56:31 PM
Hello,
I'm facing little problem with requested load. I can't request more than 143 load / 1670 boost pressure at 6100RPM to revlimit. I tried some things, but it still stays at this value. I'd like to reach 1800-1750mbar boost at redline. Engine stock BWA 200hp with 3" downpipe.
How it looks:
KFLDHBN
(https://i.imgur.com/txrDVsX.jpg)

KFMIOPS:
(https://i.imgur.com/QRS38Y4.jpg)

KFMIOP:
(https://i.imgur.com/t5xrfQB.jpg)

KFMIRL:
(https://i.imgur.com/DuqI6K6.jpg)

KLMIMAX:
(https://i.imgur.com/Nvd3Rtb.jpg)

LDRXN:
(https://i.imgur.com/ryXNOKA.jpg)


How can I get more load than 145 at 6000RPM+? Maybe there is something that I don't understand, maybe there is something that I missed.
Same thing is at 4000RPM, I request 170 load, what I get at logging car is 160% load. Maybe I'm stupid, but maybe someone will explain me something useful :)
Regards!


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: Bitshifter on April 24, 2021, 06:13:44 PM
Make Logs! Maybe Temp is to high or you have ignition retard........


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: razor1199 on April 25, 2021, 12:03:22 AM
Make Logs! Maybe Temp is to high or you have ignition retard........
I have never exceeded 880C, this value was always at redline. Max -3KW for a while at 1 cyl. Lambda keeps to be 0.77 like i request. There is no intervention via lambda control, it stays at ~5% max, fuel high and low pressure is ok. I've been thinking about that I didn't changed additional map that is needed.


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: cherry on April 25, 2021, 01:41:16 AM
And desired boost and your actual DC in log is what?


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: razor1199 on April 25, 2021, 03:03:18 AM
Desired boost 1650@6000rpm slighty drops to 1530@6800rpm, wastegate 51.5%@6000 increasing to 53%@6800.
I even tried to do things something like this with KFLDIMX and KFLDRL:
(https://i.imgur.com/x3tZEE4.jpg)

Should I play with KFLDRQ0-2 ?


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: fknbrkn on April 25, 2021, 03:07:41 AM
Can be iat correction or something
Log 002-114-004
Btw its about the limit of the stock turbo and the 50% wgdc sounds weird


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: razor1199 on April 25, 2021, 03:23:33 AM
Can be iat correction or something
Log 002-114-004
Btw its about the limit of the stock turbo and the 50% wgdc sounds weird

I have logged IAT I was been thinking the same, when it had to be 25C outside (now it's cloder, like 10C) I had max 40C at redline. Injectors timing never passed 8.5
ms, those values aren't from this version of tune, but it had almost same results like this modify.
Also I know I'm near turbo limit, but my boost tapers to 10psi, I heard typical stage 1 tapers to 12-14psi. WGDC at 50% is weird for me also, because I set it really high, maybe should it be corrected in KFLDRQ2 also?

Here is my newest log:


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: Bitshifter on April 27, 2021, 10:30:49 AM
Log is useless!

Simply make right logs....then we can maybe see more!

2/117/118
3/20/31
2/230/246


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: prj on April 27, 2021, 11:43:15 AM
Or use this:
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_getting_started (https://docs.vehical.net/logger_getting_started) :)


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: razor1199 on May 02, 2021, 08:02:56 AM
Finally I have pass thru this limit. Belive me or not, but LDRXN was the problem  :P
Now I'm at turbo efficency limit, it can't boost more :)
Here are logs, I did them after change values at LDRXN.
If you see something wrong, or have any tips to do something much better just let me know please :)

BTW. I tried to do the best logs as I could, almost everywhere 4th gear, but you know, I did it on public road, it's sometimes hard. I also cut them for be more clarify.



Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: Bitshifter on May 02, 2021, 10:52:14 AM
Hello,
I'm facing little problem with requested load. I can't request more than 143 load / 1670 boost pressure at 6100RPM to revlimit. I tried some things, but it still stays at this value. I'd like to reach 1800-1750mbar boost at redline. Engine stock BWA 200hp with 3" downpipe.

How can I get more load than 145 at 6000RPM+? Maybe there is something that I don't understand, maybe there is something that I missed.
Same thing is at 4000RPM, I request 170 load, what I get at logging car is 160% load. Maybe I'm stupid, but maybe someone will explain me something useful :)
Regards!

Is can see boost pressure (specified) >1670mbar@6100rpm in all logs!


Title: Re: MED9.1 limited Load/Boost pressure.
Post by: razor1199 on May 02, 2021, 11:23:32 AM
Is can see boost pressure (specified) >1670mbar@6100rpm in all logs!

Yes I know, the issue that I didn't go above 1670mbar was too low LDRXN value, I have set it higher and now it's ok, I just put logs of this change.