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Title: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 19, 2021, 11:51:13 PM
Hi all ive got a 2000 Audi A6 4.2 V8  Ive deleted the Secondary air pump system off the car. I was wondering if anyone could help at all with removing the software for the secondary air system out of the Ecu please. Im happy to make a donation to the forum .

Im waiting on my cable to arrive its the ft232rl is that correct ?


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Sandstorm3k on May 20, 2021, 12:35:51 AM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=13664.0
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Secondary_Air_Injection
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ESKONF

I'd start by reading these


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 20, 2021, 01:05:59 AM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=13664.0
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Secondary_Air_Injection
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ESKONF

I'd start by reading these


Thankyou for your help i may have more questions soon. Im used to flashing Subarus and Evos not seen boot mode before this is all new to me.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: bamofo on May 20, 2021, 11:58:23 AM
Hi all ive got a 2000 Audi A6 4.2 V8  Ive deleted the Secondary air pump system off the car. I was wondering if anyone could help at all with removing the software for the secondary air system out of the Ecu please. Im happy to make a donation to the forum .

Im waiting on my cable to arrive its the ft232rl is that correct ?

I can help. once you get the Cable to read/write to your ECU either PM me or post the file here.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 22, 2021, 08:00:27 PM
I can help. once you get the Cable to read/write to your ECU either PM me or post the file here.

Thankyou .


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 22, 2021, 08:19:50 PM
What drivers do i need to install to use for the ft232rl cable. Ive just download nefmoto just waiting on the cable.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: macxxx on May 22, 2021, 10:55:52 PM
Ftdi webside


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 23, 2021, 11:46:17 PM
I've opened the kkk vag-com to confirm the chip is right (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/0d6929f8ecbeea7b492d6c9fc697b7f0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 24, 2021, 12:55:41 AM
Ive tried the cable and it works. it connected at a baud rate of 108400 i think it was in dumb mode.

From here how do i extract the imformation from the ecu and save it to the computer?



Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 24, 2021, 02:09:05 AM
Also how long does it take to read the info from the ecu. Does it depend on the baud rate?

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: bamofo on May 24, 2021, 06:58:48 AM
Ive tried the cable and it works. it connected at a baud rate of 108400 i think it was in dumb mode.

From here how do i extract the imformation from the ecu and save it to the computer?



I typically you the 52k baud rate on these. read takes about 2-3 minutes write takes about the same.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: paddy26 on May 24, 2021, 02:30:16 PM
Ive tried the cable and it works. it connected at a baud rate of 108400 i think it was in dumb mode.

From here how do i extract the imformation from the ecu and save it to the computer?


http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6537.0title=


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 24, 2021, 10:27:03 PM
Read the car where do I go from here to make changes(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210525/11e6636ad7b6a0a87ac9f5330ded826b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: RBPE on May 25, 2021, 03:11:34 AM
Load your saved bin in any hex editor - HXD & Tunerpro are what most use, winols demo may make it easier to read without being able to build maps/change data. HXD to just change hex data, Tunerpro to build maps/a def file too.

EDIT - Then start by looking for ESKONF as detailed in the links, you'll prob need a def file/help/post your bin up for the other bits


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 25, 2021, 03:13:54 AM
Load your saved bin in any hex editor - HXD & Tunerpro are what most used, winols demo may make it easier to read without being able to build maps/change data. HXD to just change hex data, Tunerpro to build maps/a def file too.
Hi it's saved as a xml file is that still good to use. I only want to switch off my secondary air pump thing

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: bamofo on May 25, 2021, 09:47:38 AM
Read the car where do I go from here to make changes(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210525/11e6636ad7b6a0a87ac9f5330ded826b.jpg)

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Read your rom. Share it here ill help.


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 25, 2021, 12:06:05 PM

Read your rom. Share it here ill help.
The screenshot I've taken is the rom I've just read?

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Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: BlackT on May 26, 2021, 12:57:54 AM
The screenshot I've taken is the rom I've just read?

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Kwp2000 Flashing
Set memory layout to 800Bb
Read full flash
Save file


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 26, 2021, 01:00:12 AM
Hi hopefully ive saved a bin file as well as a xml


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 26, 2021, 01:02:22 AM
Kwp2000 Flashing
Set memory layout to 800Bb
Read full flash
Save file

Hiya ive managed to do it and it was fast at downloading too


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: bamofo on May 26, 2021, 10:40:55 AM
Hiya ive managed to do it and it was fast at downloading too

Unfortunately that is the "ecu information" piece not the read of your rom. rom will be 1024kb


Title: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 26, 2021, 11:59:36 AM
Unfortunately that is the "ecu information" piece not the read of your rom. rom will be 1024kb
I pressed read ecu and it did it quickly . Where did I go wrong

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: paddy26 on May 26, 2021, 12:22:32 PM
Where did I go wrong


Did you read the how-to guide linked in post #11?


Title: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 26, 2021, 10:29:21 PM
Kwp2000 Flashing
Set memory layout to 800Bb
Read full flash
Save file
Thankyou . I'm on it now


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 26, 2021, 10:31:23 PM
Did you read the how-to guide linked in post #11?
No I must of missed it . It's downloading now

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 26, 2021, 11:26:40 PM
Done it


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 12:03:25 AM
Done it
I've tried looking at the file in hex editor. The text is not readable . How do I see what I'm looking for . In my case secondary air pump ?

Thanks for your time in helping

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Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: paddy26 on May 27, 2021, 01:10:09 AM
I've tried looking at the file in hex editor. The text is not readable . How do I see what I'm looking for . In my case secondary air pump ?

Thanks for your time in helping

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Read the guide I linked in post #11. It only takes 30mins to read and it has the answers you need.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Sandstorm3k on May 27, 2021, 01:33:18 AM
I'll help out for a bit, with all the info on the forum such problems are easily solved.

I've looked at your bin and found your ESKONF  at 0x10BA2

00 30 BF FC 00 03 C3 FF AA FA FA FF CC 4.2 V8 ESKONF configuration is on the forum, using this knowledge we only need to change bit 5 like so;
00 30 BF FC 30 03 C3 FF AA FA FA FF CC (bit five 00 00 00 00 becomes 00 11 00 00)

Now all you need to do to complete this delete is find MSLUB and MSLBAS and then zero them out. (alternatively CDSLS and CWKONABG will work too but is not preferred for a full delete). Finding these two will also probably be extremely easy as you really only need to compare with a known defined file.

All this info comes pretty much straight from the forums and wiki, you just need to find it.




Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 01:35:02 AM
I'll help out for a bit, with all the info on the forum such problems are easily solved.

I've looked at your bin and found your ESKONF  at 0x10BA2

00 30 BF FC 00 03 C3 FF AA FA FA FF CC 4.2 V8 ESKONF configuration is on the forum, using this knowledge we only need to change bit 5 like so;
00 30 BF FC 30 03 C3 FF AA FA FA FF CC (bit five 00 00 00 00 becomes 00 11 00 00)

Now all you need to do to complete this delete is find MSLUB and MSLBAS and then zero them out. (alternatively CDSLS and CWKONABG will work too but is not preferred for a full delete). Finding these two will also probably be extremely easy as you really only need to compare with a known defined file.

All this info comes pretty much straight from the forums and wiki, you just need to find it.
Thankyou. Don't I need a definition

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Sandstorm3k on May 27, 2021, 01:44:03 AM
You can search for them, but you can also make these changes in plain hex. With the answer i provided you i think you should be able to resolve your issue within an hour.


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 01:49:22 AM
I'll help out for a bit, with all the info on the forum such problems are easily solved.

I've looked at your bin and found your ESKONF  at 0x10BA2

00 30 BF FC 00 03 C3 FF AA FA FA FF CC 4.2 V8 ESKONF configuration is on the forum, using this knowledge we only need to change bit 5 like so;
00 30 BF FC 30 03 C3 FF AA FA FA FF CC (bit five 00 00 00 00 becomes 00 11 00 00)

Now all you need to do to complete this delete is find MSLUB and MSLBAS and then zero them out. (alternatively CDSLS and CWKONABG will work too but is not preferred for a full delete). Finding these two will also probably be extremely easy as you really only need to compare with a known defined file.

All this info comes pretty much straight from the forums and wiki, you just need to find it.
I carnt see it lol . It's been years since I've done this and I wasn't the best back then

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 01:58:27 AM
This is where I am at the minute on hex editor . If I can understand that I think I can work the rest out(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/329b617ad817978f8bed552e8e2fbdf1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Sandstorm3k on May 27, 2021, 02:04:50 AM
Also; for the love of god please post screenshots its 2021.

Change your bytes per row as so: View > Bytes per row > 16 makes life a bit easier.

Now go back to my post and see your ESKONF served on a silver platter.



Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 02:19:52 AM
Also; for the love of god please post screenshots its 2021.

Change your bytes per row as so: View > Bytes per row > 16 makes life a bit easier.

Now go back to my post and see your ESKONF served on a silver platter.
Lol your dangling a carrot . I've gone down to 16 bytes now  . Any more clues

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 02:21:08 AM
And I no it's 2021 lol . But I don't no how to screen shot it

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: prj on May 27, 2021, 03:09:50 AM
Jesus christ @ this thread.

Just pay someone to do it, you shouldn't be anywhere near an ECU.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: bamofo on May 27, 2021, 01:19:40 PM
Jesus christ @ this thread.

Just pay someone to do it, you shouldn't be anywhere near an ECU.

It looks like he did already according to the rom he sent me. Looks like a facebook special. All the systems are set to 0, timing is way high and they adjusted things a bit incorrectly.


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 03:00:54 PM
It looks like he did already according to the rom he sent me. Looks like a facebook special. All the systems are set to 0, timing is way high and they adjusted things a bit incorrectly.
Pardon . I no nothing about it . My crank mains seal went and I'm in the middle of replacing it. And I thought while I was there I could get the secondary air pump deleted . I've no idea how to tune ME7

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Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 03:02:58 PM
Jesus christ @ this thread.

Just pay someone to do it, you shouldn't be anywhere near an ECU.
Pardon . That's just plain rude . I asked for help that's all.  I've done nothing wrong.

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 03:06:50 PM
Cheers for your help people . I never knew the ecu is the way it was. If I did I wouldn't be asking how to turn something off now would I .

I don't even no what's been turned to 0 or anything about the timing ! I've only owned the car since February

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Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 03:27:34 PM
Jesus christ @ this thread.

Just pay someone to do it, you shouldn't be anywhere near an ECU.
No need for your negative comments thankyou

I've never tuned ME7 if I did I wouldn't be asking here .

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Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 03:47:34 PM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=13664.0
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Secondary_Air_Injection
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#ESKONF

I'd start by reading these

Im gonna read these and hopefully come back with the answers to you


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: _nameless on May 27, 2021, 08:24:12 PM
eskonf is at 0x10ba2
prokon starts at 0x18194 and someone bastardised the table looks like volta or some shit. Find a stock tune and start over this is a garbage file


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 27, 2021, 11:52:44 PM
eskonf is at 0x10ba2
prokon starts at 0x18194 and someone bastardised the table looks like volta or some shit. Find a stock tune and start over this is a garbage file

Your right there i had good help from a gentleman on here called Bamofo good bloke and sorted it out for me


Title: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: prj on May 28, 2021, 01:00:45 AM
No need for your negative comments thankyou

I've never tuned ME7 if I did I wouldn't be asking here .

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Yes, there is a need for these comments. The problem is not ME7.
The problem is you being completely clueless with everything computer and electronics related.
I am sure there is something you can do very well, but technology does not seem to be it.

If someone didn't do it for you, the next post most likely would have been "help, my car does not start".
And if you don't know how to make a proper screenshot on a computer, I highly doubt your ability to make a bench harness and to recover the ECU.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 28, 2021, 01:40:37 AM
Yes, there is a need for these comments. The problem is not ME7.
The problem is you being completely clueless with everything computer and electronics related.
I am sure there is something you can do very well, but technology does not seem to be it.

If someone didn't do it for you, the next post most likely would have been "help, my car does not start".
And if you don't know how to make a proper screenshot on a computer, I highly doubt your ability to make a bench harness and to recover the ECU.
I'm not after criticism . Why you wasting time commenting  if your not willing to help



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Title: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: prj on May 28, 2021, 02:36:31 AM
I'm not after criticism . Why you wasting time commenting  if your not willing to help



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You were never looking for help. You were looking for someone to do it for you.
Which unfortunately someone did, but this is not the spirit of this forum.


Title: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: Rick81 on May 28, 2021, 02:50:14 AM
Now hang on I was willing to put the work in . You didn't get up one morning and just no how to do it .

You must have learnt at some point . So please spare a thought for other people.

I don't expect you to answer it for me but a hand to fellow members would be nice.

At the moment your just coming across as a bully throwing your weight about .

You no nothing about what I no. So don't sit there on the other side of a computer judging .

I flash cars on a daily basis, rescued many ecus that have been bricked at work through ford's computers. I use computers on a daily basis. The screen shot was because my laptop is new and my old got broken.

I work as a tech for ford and have stripped many an engine and all of it's components down to the last bots and rebuilt them. I'm very computer savvy . But just because I quite get something right and it wasn't what you like ,you jumped all over it .

I'm so sorry that your above everyone else .
I won't be coming on here no longer thankyou I can do with out it




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Title: Re: Re: Re: Help with me7 ecu secondary air removal
Post by: bamofo on May 28, 2021, 07:11:38 AM
You were never looking for help. You were looking for someone to do it for you.
Which unfortunately someone did, but this is not the spirit of this forum.


Yeah that's right its a DIAY forum, not a DIY with some help forum. Gosh. We should get it renamed to Do It All Yourself. Turning off SAI should not involve spending a year learning all this on a site where the only way to find things is to use google to get to the right post on this forum... Wasted enough of my life learning that. and its literally 3 minutes of work for anyone on here that posts all the time to do so its not worth charging someone to help with. From this he has already disassembled the rom and is looking into the rest of the hot mess that was in his original rom, which is he on his own with. If he wants a full tune im sure he will reach out to you though.