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Title: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: vvt18 on August 31, 2022, 09:34:06 AM
Hi all. Please tell me for 5120 hack
KVLAD - multiply with 2
KISRM - divide by 2
???
I heared from some source , they must be stock, not change for 5120 hack.
And other thing i saw in some file 032hs from nefmoto for divisions peoples made from 4D 65 to A7 32 not to A6 32.
One guy wrote same things/question about divisions on the forum, but no answers




Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on September 06, 2022, 10:54:36 PM
I wrote at that topic about A7 and A6. I think they wrong with A7.
I tried in the past KVLAD and KISRM not devided, but the car works the same like they devided, not saw any difference.
I add a question here about DPUPS, must be devided with 2 for 5120, i feel many WG intervention and the car looks not had the same power with it not devided.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: fknbrkn on September 06, 2022, 11:02:25 PM
There is a big thread covering all those questions
Did you both know what is the difference between A6 32 and A7 32 ? If no pls stop doing things you cannot understand


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on September 07, 2022, 11:09:31 AM
I don't know what is the difference only i saw in file whitch is on this forum for 032hs they put A7 and for 8E0909518AK used A6.
Sincerly i don;t know asm but my logic for asm division i think in both file must use the same A7 or A6. I don;t know witch is correct but i think Bische had good values and it is A6
Please explain us about them.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: vvt18 on September 09, 2022, 11:03:05 AM
Nobody can tell us if they must
KVLAD - multiply with 2
KISRM - divide by 2
for 5120 hack???


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: justinvw2646 on September 09, 2022, 06:49:03 PM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3027.0;attach=4878


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: vvt18 on September 09, 2022, 11:38:05 PM
i knew the file and specifications, but like i wrote upstairs, from other source i heard they must not be touched (KISRM and KVLAD).


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on September 10, 2022, 02:26:22 AM
I tried too 032HS/032HF file in 3 modes:
1. kisrm and kvlad stock value and divisions made with A6 32 - When stop the car to idle from driving the idle is bad, first goes to 600rpm and go to 760(normal) in 1-2 seconds
2. kisrm and kvlad stock value and BUT divisions made with A& 32 - When stop the car to idle from driving the idle is bad, first goes to 600rpm and go to 760(normal) in 1-2 seconds BUT THE EFFECT IS WORST than point 1, but car is very agressive from low rpm.
3.1. kisrm devided with 2 and kvlad multiply with 2 and divisions made with A7 32 - idle rev is much better , but a little oscilations, BUT BUT the car feel without power to low rpm , before 3000rpm, like throttle not responde so fast.

A6 vs A7....is not big difference in CODE/ASm
A6 made 12966 , A6 made 12967 sooooo i think can be use both, so the problems not from there.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: justinvw2646 on September 10, 2022, 07:08:11 AM
Are your low load IRL values stock?? Even small changes here in the low load columns will make the car idle like garbage.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: justinvw2646 on September 10, 2022, 07:10:19 AM
When I get home today I will post my most up to date .bin. Idle quality is good, though set to 1,000 rpm. Hopefully the comparison will be helpful.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on September 10, 2022, 08:27:21 AM
All load in low rpm are stock.
The idle is good only when i came to idle from drive it had a huge decrease, first when i stop the car at idle , the rpm goes to 600 and after this goes in 1-2 seconds to normal value 760. I saw there a very rich AFR, it goes to 11.0-11.1 even if it must be 14.5. This effect is worst when i stop the car with much brake pedal. If i left the car to stop at idle itself, the idle rev it is not so bad. I suspect a hardware part too


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: justinvw2646 on September 10, 2022, 01:45:24 PM
My latest E85 5120 tune w/good idle at 1,000 rpm. This is even with a 2.5 throttle body. Hope it helps.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on September 11, 2022, 12:30:32 AM
Thanks.
Difference :
-KVLAD (i have 2 maps in my definitions too) - i saw you multiplied both, but i think only one is real KVLAD
-DPDSVLU you not devided
-LDEIAP you not devided to -20 , you made it 1270 (i think it doesn't matter for idle)
-PBKVVSTGPV you don;t touch it (no table , no axis) , here i have a strange values , maybe my definition for it is wrong evenif gremlin and rogerious confirmed to me the address (i have 032HF file)

And i have some source too the KVLAD and KISRM must not be devided with 2 , because asm changes made this. here maybe NYET OR PRJ OR FUKENBROKEN can help us if they want!






Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: justinvw2646 on September 11, 2022, 06:55:50 PM
If you want to post your bin and xdf I will give them a look too


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on September 12, 2022, 01:08:08 AM
Thanks. Is nothing to verify in it.
I have a strange fuel on decceleration, the AFR goes to 11.0 evenif request is 14.5
You can see in the attached log.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on November 11, 2022, 11:07:39 AM
I resolved the decceleration with KFVAKL! It is much much better now, little hesitation from time to time!
I have other issue. I found in FUEDK the PLSOLAP. In any 5120 hack specifications it is not specified. must be remaining stock for 5120?


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: Blazius on November 11, 2022, 11:23:15 AM
Its irrelevant unless CWMDAPP is used in a certain way.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on November 12, 2022, 12:13:12 AM
I used CWMDAPP , not used imx and drl. For this reason i found PLSOLAP, so, maybe it must devided with 2!


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: Blazius on November 13, 2022, 05:20:13 PM
I used CWMDAPP , not used imx and drl. For this reason i found PLSOLAP, so, maybe it must devided with 2!


No it does not. Look it up in the FR, you wont learn anything otherwise. Its not used unless you set the bit that switches paths so that it is used.
Stop thinking about bullshit.


Title: Re: 5120 hack KVLAD KISRM KUMSRL
Post by: tao13 on November 14, 2022, 01:16:50 AM
Ok. Thanks. I will study more.