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Title: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 13, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
Hello i have a 04 VW 1.8T i pulled the bin and am looking for a definition file please for ECU
0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004
preferable for winols
any help appriciated


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 13, 2022, 09:08:57 PM
sorry forgot to upload the bin here it is

HW: 0261208244
SW: 1037368073
VIN nr.:
SW ver.:
Spare:
Engine: 1.8L R4/5VT     
HW Ver.:
SW upg.: 4B0906018DN 0004
Installation:


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 14, 2022, 09:05:39 PM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8579.0   

would this kp file work?

thanks


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: joshuafarwel on September 17, 2022, 05:50:52 PM
Hello i have a 04 VW 1.8T i pulled the bin and am looking for a definition file please for ECU
0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004
preferable for winols
any help appriciated

You should just use 8e0-909-518ak. i use 4b0906018-dh, and 018dn ecus with the 518ak bin. Any awm passat ecu will work with 518ak. This is probably the biggest definition youll find for it. it includes a 5120 patch, a mafless patch (alpha-n cruise control), lean burn lambda parameter, and pretty much everything else youll ever need.


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 19, 2022, 05:45:53 AM
Would you keep the coding the same in the EEPROM or do you have a stock EEPROM file to go with this bin?  

Thanks for the files and the info


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: joshuafarwel on September 19, 2022, 02:11:31 PM
Would you keep the coding the same in the EEPROM or do you have a stock EEPROM file to go with this bin?  

Thanks for the files and the info

Im pretty sure you dont need to change the eeprom, just use the one on the ecu currently. If you have an issue then assume i was wrong and ill send you the 518ak eeprom.


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 19, 2022, 07:16:49 PM
awesome thank you for the files, and i will let you know how it goes with the eeprom


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 22, 2022, 06:55:35 PM
I modded the file for Cat and SAI delete but in the ESKONF there is config 1 and config 2 i changed both should i only be touching config 1?

I ran the modded file and got these codes wondering if anyone has run into this and if the config 2 could have caused this... this is running the 518AK bin on the 018 DN Ecu
also im going to try just the stock 518ak bin to see if its me causing it or the different bin starts and runs fine just throws these codes but no MIL

any help is appreciated

17700 - map controlled engine thermostat (F265)
            P1292 - 004 - Open Circuit

18043 - Powertrain Data Bus
           P1635 -008 Missing Message from A/C Controller

18107 - Powertrain Data Bus
           P1699 - 008  Missing Messages from Steering Wheel Electronics


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: _nameless on September 22, 2022, 10:44:42 PM
They are not a 100% compatible. B6 has can based cruise control and ecu controlled fans while the b5 passat does not. Also, the b6 has returnless fueling and the passat does not, so your fuel trims will be off a bit. Personally I would not cross flash as they are not completely compatible. However, the definition from the 518ak can be used with the 018dn file, the calibration maps have the same or really close to the same offsets. Actually all 03-05 passat and a4 have close to the same offsets and calibrations aside from car specific differences.   


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: joshuafarwel on September 23, 2022, 09:29:36 AM
They are not a 100% compatible. B6 has can based cruise control and ecu controlled fans while the b5 passat does not. Also, the b6 has returnless fueling and the passat does not, so your fuel trims will be off a bit. Personally I would not cross flash as they are not completely compatible. However, the definition from the 518ak can be used with the 018dn file, the calibration maps have the same or really close to the same offsets. Actually all 03-05 passat and a4 have close to the same offsets and calibrations aside from car specific differences.   

I just wanna say that my mafless cruise control works on my 018dn ecu in my '04 a4. Cant say anything for the fans because i converted to b5 cooling sys and fan clutch.


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: joshuafarwel on September 23, 2022, 09:43:32 AM
Have you tested and verified the fans wont operate in a b6 a4 or if the cruise control wont work in a passat?

For a passat i dont see any harm in turning off some error codes for the fans or whatever else. The fuel pressure compensation map can be adjusted for the return system by setting it to 1's for a passat. Unless theres actually problems with things not working i think its worth it to use the 518ak bin since the xdf is so well defined. Adjusting the bin for your car would take a lot less time than making a whole other xdf and 5120 hack for a passat bin.


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: joshuafarwel on September 23, 2022, 09:49:50 AM
I modded the file for Cat and SAI delete but in the ESKONF there is config 1 and config 2 i changed both should i only be touching config 1?

I ran the modded file and got these codes wondering if anyone has run into this and if the config 2 could have caused this... this is running the 518AK bin on the 018 DN Ecu
also im going to try just the stock 518ak bin to see if its me causing it or the different bin starts and runs fine just throws these codes but no MIL

any help is appreciated

17700 - map controlled engine thermostat (F265)
            P1292 - 004 - Open Circuit

18043 - Powertrain Data Bus
           P1635 -008 Missing Message from A/C Controller

18107 - Powertrain Data Bus
           P1699 - 008  Missing Messages from Steering Wheel Electronics


Those are just things that the b6 a4 has and the passat doesnt. You can just turn off the error classes for those, i know i have the thermostat error classes defined. You gotta set the fuel pressure compensation map to 1s.
I could be totally wrong and the 518ak ecu might just cause function problems and if thats the case im sorry. I have a b6 a4 so i wouldnt know.
Im pretty sure you only change the config 1 in eskonf. I could be wrong. Im basically a noob, so pretty much everything i say might need fact checked lmao


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: _nameless on September 23, 2022, 04:29:57 PM
I just wanna say that my mafless cruise control works on my 018dn ecu in my '04 a4. Cant say anything for the fans because i converted to b5 cooling sys and fan clutch.
But you are using a 518ak file on a passat ecu right? The passat ecus are the same at a hardware level. The cruise control will not work with a b5 passat that has stalk control for cruse, the signals are not the same if it has a b6 file on it. If you use a b5 passat file on a 03-05 a4 the fans will run forever and not shut off untill you unhook the battery. Ive done this more times than I can recall and its all the same outcome.


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 23, 2022, 04:30:35 PM
It seems the xdf does overlay on the 018 dn  so i am going to try that next with eskonf config 1 set only , been comparing locations and i think everything i need is lining up properly im also going to attempt to manually read the xdf and enter it into winols to create a damos unless someone already has done this ?

Good to know these files are different that being said it actually ran fine idle was right on just the three codes.

i will run my 018 DN Mod file and let you know what happens.

Thanks again for all the info


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Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: joshuafarwel on September 24, 2022, 12:25:54 AM
Maybe this will help. Its a passat bin and this is a decent sized definition. 018dp and dq are the same thing im pretty sure


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: _nameless on September 24, 2022, 07:09:08 AM
I have the full a2l and hex for the 518f and 518al(ak) but it doesn't matter.  If you have any definition for the later models you can just use that by shifting a few bits.


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 24, 2022, 10:40:33 AM
I have the full a2l and hex for the 518f and 518al(ak) but it doesn't matter.  If you have any definition for the later models you can just use that by shifting a few bits.
I would be very interested in those definitions and again thanks for all the info


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Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 27, 2022, 04:21:56 PM
Looking for some additional help is there a possibility that the passat 018DN is using the config2 for ESKONF i did a cat sai delete following the wiki and double checked my values and if i pull the sai relay i get a code for it

17841 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299)
               P1433 - 004 Open Circuit

All signs point to the rear o2 part working the rear o2 reads 0.00v and says test ok i have yet to unplug it and confirm that way.

I set ESKONF confg 1 to -  AA FF 00 F0 FF FB 3C  - and left config 2 alone
ESKONF config 2 does show a brake booster pump as installed and my car has one.  AA FF 00 30 3F F8 30

i left CDSLS alone
CWKONABG is 0  as part of 02 delete

MSLUB zeroed out across all
MSLBAS 0

also didn't touch FHOKH

Thanks


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: gremlin on September 28, 2022, 01:32:11 AM
ESKONF 1 - used if vechicle with MT
ESKONF 2 - used if vechicle with AT


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on September 28, 2022, 05:57:29 AM
ESKONF 1 - used if vechicle with MT
ESKONF 2 - used if vechicle with AT


thank you this completely makes sense to my results then


Title: Re: 0261208244 4B0906018DN 0004 Definition request please
Post by: vengines on October 02, 2022, 03:11:26 PM
hey guys i'm working on the readiness monitors now just for completeness and cant get the SAI or O2 to set passed
this is log from vcds

i have SRYLS and SRYSLS set to 0 have tried ORI and 0
and have tried to set readiness in VCDS the test never goes through for B1S1 age test and sai test never goes to ok 300s + run time for each

MSLUB 0 across the table
MSLBAS 0

Any Direction appreciated if you need any more info i will give what i can im fine with not installed or passed just want to avoid failed
thanks
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Readiness Status: 0010 1000
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Passed
Oxygen Sensor Heating: Passed
Oxygen Sensor(s): Failed or Incomplete
Air Conditioning: Passed
Secondary Air Injection: Failed or Incomplete
Evaporative Emissions: Passed
Catalyst Heating: Passed
Catalytic Converter(s): Passed


Sunday,02,October,2022,17:40:06:40722
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4623.4
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 10

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring:  Passed
Fuel System:  Passed
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring:  Passed
Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Not installed.
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.