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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: quattrotr on June 28, 2012, 12:08:16 PM



Title: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: quattrotr on June 28, 2012, 12:08:16 PM
Attached are ORG & TUN file that came with my car S3 1.8t APY engine. I fitted AEM wideband and boost gauge. What I saw is that on upper RPM levels AFR begins to get lean and boost drobs. Such as: AFR is at 12.5-13 at 3000-3500rpm and goes higher to 16 at 6500rpm. Boost gets peak to 1.45 bar and then drops to 0.85-0.9 bar at 6000rpm.

Will decreasing lambda map in upper rpm's be enough to get more fuel on this narrow band lambda? What else do I have to change?


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: TheDSI on June 28, 2012, 12:45:10 PM
maybe you have a bad MAF sensor .


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: quattrotr on June 28, 2012, 01:08:37 PM
What should be a good MAF read in rev limiter area? As far as I know arround 200 gr/s is OK, right? I will log the MAF and check it...


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: littco on June 28, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
Is your fpr working ok? Vac leak maybe. That'll cause the car to lean out.


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: nyet on June 28, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
also pressure test.

Make sure you don't have a post maf intake leak.


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: littco on June 28, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
Is your fpr working ok? Vac leak maybe. That'll cause the car to lean out. here's your lambda map as well, it's stock and really should have been changed..



I just had a look over the map and all the "tuner" has done is raise the last 3 rows of kmirl a bit and put in a very high LDRXN for a K04 anyway... That is it. 2 maps changed.


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: quattrotr on June 28, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
I will check FPR and DV too. 1.4-1.5 bar are boost levels that K04-020 series can handle I guess. Will decreasing LAMFA map for 100% TP decrease the lean level? How much should I decrease it as %?


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: RS-MAD on June 28, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Check your fuel pump , too comon problem on these cars ...


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: pedrosousa on June 29, 2012, 03:51:45 AM
I will check FPR and DV too. 1.4-1.5 bar are boost levels that K04-020 series can handle I guess. Will decreasing LAMFA map for 100% TP decrease the lean level? How much should I decrease it as %?

Don't use %, you should use the value that you want in lambda, if you want 0.85, use this value, LAMFA map speaking


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: @lq! on June 29, 2012, 04:35:48 AM
I will check FPR and DV too. 1.4-1.5 bar are boost levels that K04-020 series can handle I guess. Will decreasing LAMFA map for 100% TP decrease the lean level? How much should I decrease it as %?

i had a same issue.. the problem could be fuel pump.


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: quattrotr on June 29, 2012, 11:18:31 AM
Thank you guys I will check all these stuff and decrease LAMFA too and observe the AFR pattern.


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: ibizacupra on July 01, 2012, 07:28:36 AM
Thank you guys I will check all these stuff and decrease LAMFA too and observe the AFR pattern.
see what block 001 lambda adjust is doing vs your 031 request vs actual lambda - if you see big swings it may indicate weak fuel pump


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: TheDSI on July 01, 2012, 10:34:30 AM
narrow band lambda ECU's don't have requested vs acutal lambda .
do a log of boost pressure vs vs MAF reading and post it here .


Title: Re: How to get rich and more boost???
Post by: ibizacupra on August 01, 2012, 08:02:06 AM
narrow band lambda ECU's don't have requested vs acutal lambda .
do a log of boost pressure vs vs MAF reading and post it here .

teach me to skim read the post wont it.. my bad - doh!
(well aware of narrow band limitations)