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Noob Zone => Noob Questions => Topic started by: mourison on November 02, 2023, 11:50:45 PM



Title: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 02, 2023, 11:50:45 PM
Is there any kind soul out there that can show me how to turn off sai?
I tried turning off the eskonf and disconnecting the sai pump and solenoid 112 but the car still gives the DTC and bad starts.

now its AA FF 00 30 FF FB 3C


Thank you



Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: zCruuz on November 03, 2023, 12:56:39 AM
You are turning the power output to the Relais off and now you are wondering, why you still get DTCs...
Read the wiki
https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 03, 2023, 04:13:56 AM
Precisely that the relays are not switched off, because when connected, they are switched on during a cold start.

but in eskonf everything should be set


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: fknbrkn on November 03, 2023, 06:35:46 AM
Precisely that the relays are not switched off, because when connected, they are switched on during a cold start.

but in eskonf everything should be set

Eskonf is just a circuit diagnose
Read the wiki


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: R32Dude on November 03, 2023, 05:02:01 PM
Do you want to turn it off only or remove components as well?


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 04, 2023, 12:10:24 AM
I would like to disconnect the sai connector and the 112 solenoid and leave the wiring in the car, but I would like the car to not have cold start problems and not display an error :/


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: R32Dude on November 04, 2023, 12:53:23 AM
A resistor in the place of the N112 and the electric motor might do the job.


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: zCruuz on November 04, 2023, 01:11:31 AM
Code it out properly and you will archive this. But nobody will come and Tell you what to do. Everything is up on Wiki and nef. If you are not capable of scrolling down on Wiki down to sai, read and do what's written there. Determing what resistors are needed might also be a to heavy task.

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Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 05, 2023, 01:53:19 PM
Ok, according to the s4 wiki I removed.

Is it possible to look at the bin to see if everything is ok including chk?

WinOls says there are bad checksums and the car won't start, but me7sum says it doesn't see a problem :/



Thank you


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: zCruuz on November 05, 2023, 02:34:09 PM
Noread in ols, so i can't check. Don't know if it affects me7sum, you might deactivate it and try cs again.
If CS are correct just flash and try...


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 05, 2023, 02:52:37 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't notice that in the winols settings, I canceled all the settings, so maybe it should work now.

Below I describe what I did, but after exporting the bin and re-opening, ols gives me bad chk and won't fix them
"winols not all the expected checksums were found correction may be incomplete"

after uploading to the car, the car won't start and the vcds won't connect to the unit.

After playing on the original flash, everything works

I think there is something really wrong with chk

I am also attaching the original list + kp that I use

AA FF 00 30 FF F8 30 => AA FF 00 30 FF FB 3C
CDSLS to 0
CWKONABG to 0
MSLUB => all 0
MSLBAS => all 0


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 05, 2023, 02:57:37 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't notice that in the winols settings, I canceled all the settings, so maybe it should work now.

Below I describe what I did, but after exporting the bin and re-opening, ols gives me bad chk and won't fix them
"winols not all the expected checksums were found correction may be incomplete"

I am also attaching the original list + kp that I use

AA FF 00 30 FF F8 30 => AA FF 00 30 FF FB 3C
CDSLS to 0
CWKONABG to 0
MSLUB => all 0
MSLBAS => all 0



Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: JeanAwt on November 05, 2023, 11:33:44 PM
try this
cheksums ok

*** DONE! 0 error(s) in C:\Users\\Downloads\WinOLS (10068.ols (SAI off_ALL) -
363908)! ***


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 05, 2023, 11:39:57 PM
winols opened this bin without errors?

Winols gives me an error even though I have plugins on chk

bin with 032hjworks fine .. maybe broken flash ?


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 05, 2023, 11:43:08 PM
img


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: JeanAwt on November 06, 2023, 12:16:46 AM
winols opened this bin without errors?

Winols gives me an error even though I have plugins on chk

bin with 032hjworks fine .. maybe broken flash ?

yes opened without error....what ols version do you have? i have 74chk ols 262


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 06, 2023, 04:34:37 AM
maybe i have broken ols ?
Just 73chk



Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: _nameless on November 06, 2023, 08:37:06 AM
Is there any kind soul out there that can show me how to turn off sai?
I tried turning off the eskonf and disconnecting the sai pump and solenoid 112 but the car still gives the DTC and bad starts.

now its AA FF 00 30 FF FB 3C


Thank you



So, you had the circuit diagnostics disabled correctly. However, you will need more than just the circuit diagnostics for a proper sai delete. The prokon (project configuration bit switches) need to be set to zero, mainly CDSLS, and best off setting CWKONABG to zero. Anyway I made the changes for you on the original file you posted. Not needed but for completeness I set  MSLUB and MSLBAS to zero and FHOKH to FF.


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 06, 2023, 03:51:22 PM
WinOLS says file has bad chk ?

possible ?
or do I have something wrong with ols?

Were you able to open it without errors?


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: _nameless on November 06, 2023, 04:11:05 PM
WinOLS says file has bad chk ?

possible ?
or do I have something wrong with ols?

Were you able to open it without errors?
Checksums done using ECU Fix. Not trying to be rude but Im not going to help you diagnose counterfeit software. 


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 07, 2023, 04:25:27 AM
I updated my ols and now everything is fin


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: mourison on November 07, 2023, 10:51:10 AM
Please .. if i set this cons. to 0 .
Readiness in vcds will be green ?

    SRYAGR (0x810974) - Threshold for Readiness formation EGR diagnosis (unused)
    SRYHS (0x810975) - Threshold for Readiness formation O2 sensor heating diagnosis (ready bit 6)
    SRYKAT (0x810976) - Threshold for Readiness formation catalyst diagnosis (ready bit 0)
    SRYLS (0x810977) - Threshold for Readiness formation lambda sensor diagnosis (ready bit 5)
    SRYSLS (0x810978) - Threshold for Readiness formation SAI diagnosis (ready bit 3)
    SRYTES (0x810979) - Threshold for Readiness formation canister purge diagnosis (ready bit 2)

thanks


Title: Re: SAI remove
Post by: zCruuz on November 09, 2023, 01:09:06 AM
Please .. if i set this cons. to 0 .
Readiness in vcds will be green ?

    SRYAGR (0x810974) - Threshold for Readiness formation EGR diagnosis (unused)
    SRYHS (0x810975) - Threshold for Readiness formation O2 sensor heating diagnosis (ready bit 6)
    SRYKAT (0x810976) - Threshold for Readiness formation catalyst diagnosis (ready bit 0)
    SRYLS (0x810977) - Threshold for Readiness formation lambda sensor diagnosis (ready bit 5)
    SRYSLS (0x810978) - Threshold for Readiness formation SAI diagnosis (ready bit 3)
    SRYTES (0x810979) - Threshold for Readiness formation canister purge diagnosis (ready bit 2)

thanks

Irrc i have readiness reading "correct", but never modified what you mention here, which exact maps i'd have to check.