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Title: Can't do logging
Post by: Flooosee on January 08, 2024, 11:46:55 AM
Hello,

Im currently trying to do logging using VehiCAL and ME7 Logger. I buyed a Mini-VCI J2534, but both software aren't working, VehiCAL dont show the interface in the menu, and ME7 Logger constantly telling me to check cable and if ignition is on...
I updated the drivers, it didnt help


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: aef on January 09, 2024, 01:45:37 AM
ME7logger wont work with J2534 Interface.
It is working with vcds or kkl cable.
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For vehical check this out.
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_tested_devices
You just bought the wrong cable.
Send email to vehical. Maybe he can build / integrate your china cable/driver.


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: prj on January 09, 2024, 02:39:57 AM
Send email to vehical. Maybe he can build / integrate your china cable/driver.

Nobody can do that. J2534 standard describes discovery of interfaces, and all applications and interfaces have to follow that.
If the interface does not follow it, it is not a J2534 compliant interface, only the interface vendor can do anything about it. Suggesting the application developer can do anything is absurd.


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: fknbrkn on January 09, 2024, 02:55:09 AM

Send email to vehical. Maybe he can build / integrate your china cable/driver.


"im using free version of your software, can you please rewrite your app bc i cannot buy $15 cable"
 ::)

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Hello,

Im currently trying to do logging using VehiCAL and ME7 Logger. I buyed a Mini-VCI J2534, but both software aren't working, VehiCAL dont show the interface in the menu, and ME7 Logger constantly telling me to check cable and if ignition is on...
I updated the drivers, it didnt help

Go get another car, provide any details and so on


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: aef on January 09, 2024, 05:05:45 AM
okay okay again learned something^^


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: JeanAwt on January 09, 2024, 05:26:16 AM
he doesn't say for which protocol either...maybe it's for a john deer from the 80s due to a misunderstanding and with luck it might work ^^


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: Flooosee on January 10, 2024, 05:00:04 PM
It is for logging a Audi TT MK1.
I tried with VCDS cable too, in ME7Logger, but dosent work  ???
I buyed the J2534 for VehiCAL because someone told me this cable is needed for this software.


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: Flooosee on January 10, 2024, 05:02:42 PM
ME7logger wont work with J2534 Interface.
It is working with vcds or kkl cable.
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For vehical check this out.
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_tested_devices
You just bought the wrong cable.
Send email to vehical. Maybe he can build / integrate your china cable/driver.


I buyed the J2534 on ali, so is this the problem ? Every other cables i buyed from there are working properly, just those two softwares arent
(It is a Mini-VCI J2534 , it is the only model i found on the website)


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: prj on January 10, 2024, 05:56:42 PM
I buyed the J2534 on ali, so is this the problem ? Every other cables i buyed from there are working properly, just those two softwares arent
(It is a Mini-VCI J2534 , it is the only model i found on the website)

J2534 is a SAE standard. Not a cable.

What you bought is a "Mini-VCI" cable. Clearly it's actually not J2534 compliant or you don't have the correct drivers for it.

List of tested J2534 cables can be found here:
https://docs.vehical.net/logger_tested_devices (https://docs.vehical.net/logger_tested_devices)


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: _nameless on January 10, 2024, 08:05:10 PM
Ive used my mongoose, tactrix cables without issue. The problem is you are buying sub par products and expecting the world out of them. Most are complete shit. The clone tactrix cable does not work with kline so don't bother with that. Having a good quality cable will not hurt you in any way. Think about the amount of bullshit you have gone threw, wouldn't spending an additional $100 to avoid all the bullshit be worth it?? Just saying, the cheap ass cables are junk and they will list them as whatever they want to sell them.
 https://www.tactrix.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&product_id=17&vmcchk=1&Itemid=53&redirected=1&Itemid=53
^^^ this is what I would recommend to use with VehiCAL, me7 logger was good 10+ years ago, but the amount of hoops you need to jump thru to make it work sucks and for someone whos new to this kinda stuff its another learning curve. VehiCAL takes care of all the behind the scenes bullshit and just works, highly recommend.     


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: aef on January 11, 2024, 02:37:09 AM
I tried with VCDS cable too, in ME7Logger, but dosent work  ???

maybe start from here and ask specific questions or read the stickies.
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6537.0

dumb mode is the main reason its not working.
try with nefmoto software to validate it easily
if this is working then try me7logger


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: prj on January 11, 2024, 03:50:03 AM
dumb mode is the main reason its not working.

HEXv2 does not have dumb mode btw.


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: Flooosee on January 14, 2024, 09:55:40 AM
Alright, it is more clearer in my mind.
Im gonna send back the one i received to the seller, and find another cable, which is in the VehiCal's list to be sure. Thank you all for the help


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: prj on January 15, 2024, 12:44:46 AM
Chances are that this one will work as well.
http://blog.obdii365.com/2022/11/18/how-to-install-mini-vci-toyota-techstream-driver-on-win10-64bit/ (http://blog.obdii365.com/2022/11/18/how-to-install-mini-vci-toyota-techstream-driver-on-win10-64bit/)


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: Flooosee on January 15, 2024, 03:07:15 PM
Chances are that this one will work as well.
http://blog.obdii365.com/2022/11/18/how-to-install-mini-vci-toyota-techstream-driver-on-win10-64bit/ (http://blog.obdii365.com/2022/11/18/how-to-install-mini-vci-toyota-techstream-driver-on-win10-64bit/)

I installed the Techstream V18, it was the one included with the cable. When i tried in VehiCAL it said the interface wasnt compatible, maybe i did it wrong, idk i may try again


Title: Re: Can't do logging
Post by: prj on January 15, 2024, 03:32:16 PM
I mean, if you are going to just say vague statements "it doesn't work". "it said bla bla" instead of copy pasting logs then nobody is going to be able to tell you anything.

Interface is untested anyway, so I have no idea if it can ever work.