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Title: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: hilmito on February 06, 2025, 03:34:39 AM Hi Members,
I've been meaning to make a topic like this for a long time. What do tuning companies (034Motorsport, Apr, Unitroni) do differently? Do we have any observations? Has anyone had chance to look at what they do differently? Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: prj on February 06, 2025, 05:41:46 AM These three do not belong together.
APR and Unitronic have own logging and flashing tools. 034 afaik does not, or did not when Uni and APR already did. 034 has historically been a parts company. Also different from WHAT? You mean why they sell? Because of being early to the game and superior marketing and distribution. The calibrations are not in any way "special". Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: EanDem on February 06, 2025, 05:42:51 AM Hi Members, There no magic in tuning strategy for exact ecu family. They may have more funding to deep testing to polish tune or make own asw patching/modules + hardware - but that different story. I've been meaning to make a topic like this for a long time. What do tuning companies (034Motorsport, Apr, Unitroni) do differently? Do we have any observations? Has anyone had chance to look at what they do differently? Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: hilmito on February 06, 2025, 06:10:28 AM These three do not belong together. APR and Unitronic have own logging and flashing tools. 034 afaik does not, or did not when Uni and APR already did. 034 has historically been a parts company. Also different from WHAT? You mean why they sell? Because of being early to the game and superior marketing and distribution. The calibrations are not in any way "special". I mean, has anyone had the opportunity to compare a file from these tuning companies, whether they do anything special/different from the regular tuner. Because they always brag a lot. If you read their description on the website you will say that they do magic, something different the regular tuner dont do. Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: fknbrkn on February 06, 2025, 06:40:11 AM If you read their description on the website you will say that they do magic, something different the regular tuner dont do. thats called advertising Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: hilmito on February 06, 2025, 06:49:26 AM thats called advertising Yes, i agree with you exectly. But you won't be able to find anyone publicly comparing their file anywhere. Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: EanDem on February 06, 2025, 08:04:34 AM There no "secrets" in tunes where you have significant differences. Yes will be minor but usually it is defined by test case attached - like fuel, altitude etc for what baseline is made. Rest - as mentioned - whole lap dance bust your wallet...
Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: prj on February 06, 2025, 08:41:07 AM I mean, has anyone had the opportunity to compare a file from these tuning companies, whether they do anything special/different from the regular tuner. Because they always brag a lot. If you read their description on the website you will say that they do magic, something different the regular tuner dont do. There is absolutely nothing special about the tunes. End of story, end of discussion. Yes, it's not braindead % button mashing. Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: nyet on February 06, 2025, 11:37:58 AM I got into DIY tuning because i noticed all of their stuff was junk, bro.
Agreed with all of the above: calibration is not difficult. There is no magic sauce other than to be detail oriented, which you can't do if you're just slinging tunes and don't GAF. Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: nyet on February 06, 2025, 11:40:34 AM They may have more funding to deep testing to polish tune They demonstrably do not do this. Their time/money is better spent * covering as many different flavors of ECUs as possible with the bare minimum of "ok" * marketing Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: EanDem on February 06, 2025, 12:44:24 PM Not arguing here - that is why "..may..." mentioned. Had opportunity look to simos related ones from few brands mentioned in trail and few "individual tunes" from UK based "proud by results" well known titles - left with strong opinion it is nothing about well serving technology rather marketing in chase of profit at any cost...
Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: overspeed on February 06, 2025, 01:17:40 PM The biggest difference is that they charge much more for each service than a service performed with equal or greater quality by an independent tuner. :D
Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: overspeed on February 06, 2025, 01:19:00 PM At least than a GOOD tuner
Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: masterb on April 20, 2025, 04:12:21 AM Does anyone have experience with the file service from bc_consulting? The company seems to have been on the market for a long time and appears to be serious.
Apparently the market seems to be changing a lot. Many file service sites are popping up with automatic file generation. Here there is probably % tuning without changing individual values. Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: EanDem on April 20, 2025, 04:35:01 AM Known company - they are vendor of Bflash. They rarely make mistakes in default tunes.
Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: prj on April 20, 2025, 01:15:59 PM Known company - they are vendor of Bflash. They rarely make mistakes in default tunes. A lot of their diesel shit is classic "square" % tuning though. I am sure it really depends on the file. Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: cherry on April 20, 2025, 05:54:57 PM All diesel files i saw from them had "disabled" egt sensor curves ::)
These files can be used as base, but need to be fixed to be safe... Title: Re: What did 034Motorsport, Apr, Unitronic and so on do differently than usual tuner Post by: jcsbanks on April 21, 2025, 03:05:41 AM My petrol file from them was fast, but it raised knock noise factors and boost wasn't controlled.
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