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Technical => Flashing and Chipping => Topic started by: Viirn1.8T on May 07, 2025, 04:24:19 PM



Title: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 07, 2025, 04:24:19 PM
 So i have an Ecu   4B0906018DP (04 passat 1.8t AWM) it was flashed with a 8E090518AK (b6?)   i am new to flashing and was just trying to help my buddy  whos car wouldnt start with the ak file passat as well   i have been told  im using wrong boot loader to re flash?
  i have mpps v18 clone cable and can get ecu into  bootmode but it won't flash the new file over    after flashing ecu  i close mpps and re-open to read ecu ID over VW passat me7.5 1MB       i understand with the B6 file it uses a different bootloader to flash ecu? 
  how am i able to fix the DP ecu for my buddy?
   i was able to fix my other passat ecu i used to flash the same ak file which broke my spare ecu   no problems with that ecu in boot mode and re flash   i appreciate  all and any help    i am just trying to learn......


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 08, 2025, 03:28:29 AM
Seriously anyone??    Somebody should know the info I need to fix my damn buddies ecu?    Is it really bricked?        How is anyone ever supposed to learn how to fix shit. Or do their own repairs. If nobody is ever willing to teach or help


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: fknbrkn on May 08, 2025, 03:33:52 AM
flash it back to stock with bootmode
8E0 uses different hw, its not crossflashable


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 08, 2025, 03:57:53 AM
flash it back to stock with bootmode
8E0 uses different hw, its not crossflashable
I have a stock file  from an 02 passat  that I read using mpps. I already tried re flashing back to stock via mpps boot mode.  It will say successful  programming.    But when I go to read ecu ID. It will say  ecu not found and nefmoto kwp2000 won't connect to it


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: _nameless on May 08, 2025, 07:52:36 PM
flash it back to stock with bootmode
8E0 uses different hw, its not crossflashable
Those are usa variants and all the 03+ 4bo and 8e0 use the same ecu, its the late model ecu. 8e0909518f is the last version of the b6 (2002) that uses the old hardware. and 4b0906018cX is the old hardware 018dX is the new hardware for the b5.5 passat awm. The AWM is return style fueling and the AMB b6 is returnless fueling.


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 09, 2025, 03:53:53 AM
So why am I not able to get this ecu to flash?   It was flashed with wrong file and  but now.  Ecu wont keep the new file.    I have a steady 12-14v source.  Im using tricore cable. All correct pins  grounding out boot pin with power off then on to cycle boot mode.   Mpps will perform 100%  but then ecu isn't able to be read for. id.   So was eeprom effected?    Im just gonna send ecu bc I'm not getting any luck.  To fix it.   


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: JeanAwt on May 09, 2025, 09:28:24 AM
Are you sure about this original file? Posted it, it is 'clean', not modified, chks ok....? I already had this problem, unknown ID because of a bad idea of ​​copying/pasting between 2 files


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: _nameless on May 09, 2025, 03:05:12 PM
So why am I not able to get this ecu to flash?   It was flashed with wrong file and  but now.  Ecu wont keep the new file.    I have a steady 12-14v source.  Im using tricore cable. All correct pins  grounding out boot pin with power off then on to cycle boot mode.   Mpps will perform 100%  but then ecu isn't able to be read for. id.   So was eeprom effected?    Im just gonna send ecu bc I'm not getting any luck.  To fix it.   
Well you haven't attached any files so who knows what you actually have. Furthermore its not a tricore ecu so that would have nothing to do with it.... Lastly its not "loosing the flash" its bricked after you flashing it, most likely from incompatible software versions like I said above. Some "tuners" change software numbers and other try hacks to throw people off the trial from using their work or trying to copy it... 


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 09, 2025, 04:21:31 PM
Well you haven't attached any files so who knows what you actually have. Furthermore its not a tricore ecu so that would have nothing to do with it.... Lastly its not "loosing the flash" its bricked after you flashing it, most likely from incompatible software versions like I said above. Some "tuners" change software numbers and other try hacks to throw people off the trial from using their work or trying to copy it... 

 I have Added the CL Stock File which worked to fix my other bricked ecu from flashing said AK file
i have also added the said B6 file and another stock file i have from my other good working ecu
i never had the chance to save the stock DP file from my friend before he had his other guy flash it

the Tricore cable is what i thought was called a breakout cable that came with my mpps v18


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: prj on May 10, 2025, 05:25:13 AM
Why are you not flashing the stock DP file on it?
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7678.0 (http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7678.0)

You have no clue what you are doing and you're crossflashing shit, of course that's going to end up in tears...


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 10, 2025, 09:33:57 AM
Why are you not flashing the stock DP file on it?
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7678.0 (http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7678.0)

You have no clue what you are doing and you're crossflashing shit, of course that's going to end up in tears...

As i Have stated in the beginning of inital post   i am learning.   from my searching online for a stock DP file  i either had to pay or how am i supposed to verify its good? (Obviously checksum the file!)    Do you have to flash the specfic stock file to acutally fix said ecu?   why would another compatible stock ecu file not work?      Yes i am trying to figure the shit out  thats why i made a post here looking for direction    not to just be told idk what im doing!
i found nowhere online or here stating you could get stock ecu files here!      also AGAIN   the ecu was flashed by another person FIRST i fixed my spare ecu bc i was smart enough to save the damn bin file before flashing the b6 tune!  ( i had thought the b6 bin file was bad or corrupted but no the guy my friend got the ecu file from is just a dumbass and im a beginner trying to learn and fix shit when shit goes wrong

i came here to  find someone help enough to explain the shit i need to know to fix the damn ecu   everyone has to start somewhere    i defintely could have searched harder to see the group posting for stock ecus   i will try flashing said file to ecu    my friend who lives in NY did who  my immo off for me and knows way more about ecus and files then me    he had told me there was no issue for me to flash the 01-02 stock files onto the ecu to try and fix the b6 file that shouldnt have been flashed onto it        now that i have admitted my own stupidity can we move on and focus on the problem? cheers


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 10, 2025, 09:45:14 AM
Why are you not flashing the stock DP file on it?
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7678.0 (http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7678.0)

You have no clue what you are doing and you're crossflashing shit, of course that's going to end up in tears...

Also!    so this orginal file you have shared   which thank you    should work as long as its not the ecu that is the problem?    my friends car is a FWD   he has a MK4 ecu in his car now with an 06a906032HS tune file on it   running in his vw passat b5.5 awm 04   ( he bought car like this)   he wanted a spare ecu for a new tune he is getting    this is what started all this   anyways   i will have to  soft code the ecu back to fwd  with this AWD file  via VCDS but shouldnt be a problem   since when i got my ecu back from my buddy in NY  for some reason ecu thought it was a manual and i had to re do the soft coding  to put it back to an auto     im giving as much info as i can 


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: JeanAwt on May 10, 2025, 12:40:34 PM
I haven't read your whole story... but there's a search bar. I typed: 018DP. It took me 10 seconds. Stock file CrossFlash... Write an origin file as advised above. You'd like to understand CrossFlash or ME7 settings... okay, but all of this can't be learned in 5 minutes or 15 days. Good luck and read on if you want to learn.


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: fknbrkn on May 11, 2025, 02:01:27 AM
this thread is a joke
youve got 018DP ecu, you flash it with its own file. end of story


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 11, 2025, 05:41:38 AM
this thread is a joke
youve got 018DP ecu, you flash it with its own file. end of story


It may be a joke. But im trying to learn. So  again as  you guys have all done. Commented on the overall  situation.  Would you be kind enough to explain some of the questions i have asked. And  teach. Then just add criticism??   So why wouldnt a compatible file work?  If ecu is good and not fried.  Why wouldnt a ecu file from same make model motor. Hardware. Work on said ecu?     Is a stock  or original file the only way to fix a bricked ecu?    Elaborate and teach the not so knowledgeable  yes?


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 11, 2025, 07:17:31 AM
 all right  i was successful in boot mode for re flashing stock DP Ori file that was so graciously  supplied   NOW  ecu was supposed to be immo off   did by me writing the ORI file   did i just effect eeprom or will i be okay?  hopefully ecu is not immo on now...


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: Viirn1.8T on May 11, 2025, 12:44:55 PM
So i was going to ask about why said cm cl  ecus did not work for 018D.  But this answer my questions.   I know that everyone is expected to put some effort in. But. I think some easier  question answering could go a long way.     If someone had just said in the beginning. I just needed a stock file  and that. Cm cl  weren't compatible due to a processor change.  Then I would have understood.    I still appreciate any help. And  well I got -1 karma  haha. Cheers


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: _nameless on May 11, 2025, 01:20:35 PM
99% of the time immo off is done in eeprom not flash. So unless the previous file was a non immo file or had immo off in flash it still should have the immo off. Also, as said before you rally need to learn ecu generations for corresponding eeprom / flash combos, otherwise you will get codes for incompatible eeprom / incorrect configuration, possible bricked ecu after a few key cycles, or a odd IMMO issue from mixing files. Vcds > adaptations> 91 will show immo status    


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: _nameless on May 11, 2025, 01:25:01 PM
...and that. Cm cl  weren't compatible due to a processor change.  Then I would have understood.    I still appreciate any help. And  well I got -1 karma  haha. Cheers.
I guess you totally disregarded my first post. Who cares about karma, bunch of little bitches that get jelly. Really its a pointless metric, it means nothing, matter of fact personally I welcome it  ;)


Title: Re: Bricked 4B0906018DP Flashed with B6 file
Post by: JeanAwt on May 11, 2025, 10:16:47 PM
Having been here for 14 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes of reading, I can tell you that you have had help, many would have been shot for less than that