NefMoto

Has anyone thrown together a realtime graphing utility that can read the ME7Logger output file as it's being written?

Or I wonder if the output on ME7Logger can be transposed to mimic vagcom output that VAGScope could then graph realtime. Or ECUx graphing.

Thanks,
Rey

Yes.
Driver for WinLog, fully customizable dashboard, data logging and log viewer.

I've used prj's driver for winlog... Fantastic, great tool and very useful.. Realtime at its best.

Small clip.

Work in progress but it works. Coupled to the winlogview its awesome.

http://youtu.be/66kree2yA8A

Is there a public thread to download it from?

Interested in it too :)

So honest question, would you guys be prepared to pay something for such functionality?

The idea is to have the ME7L log parser itself for WinLog, which is fully functional at the moment.
To that I am planning to add virtual COM port ability to stream the data in a certain format, and then a TunerPro adx definition so you can have live data tracing on the maps.
I already have done all this on the old M2.3.X Motronic for the Audi I5 engines.
WinLog also supports Zeitronix, Techedge, 14point7 and some other wideband controllers, so it is possible to pull data from multiple sources and have it in the same log.

But yeah, I have so much going on right now, that I just can't see myself finding the time to release this for free.

I'd pay you now for one especially a TP plugin!

I've literally just email mark Mansur (tunerpro creator) about this and the me7 logger and how we can migrate it into the tunerpro, we have been testing elm327 and tunerpro as mark has a plugin for TP and elm327 but it doesn't seem to work properly yet plus the data rate is pretty crap compared with the me7 logger...

Its in my mind the missing link in TP and the emulator. I have been speaking to alot if people regarding data tracing on TP and the overwhelming consensus was it would be an amazing function to the emulator and TP .

As much as I highly rate your winlog .dll for me7 having it data tracing etc in TP would top it all off.

There is no need to modify TunerPro.

All that has to be done is the WinLog plugin that parses the stream also has to provide a null modem port, and then there has to be a matching .adx for TunerPro reading from the same port.

That's very similar to what I do for M2.3.2.
I haven't had a lot of time to work on my ME7 stuff lately... something to do with converting M2.3.2 to speed density and some other side projects.
I deffo want to write a proper speed density algorithm for ME7 as well with a MAP sensor instead of MAF, but I am going off topic :D

how much would the cost be and how long?

my 2 cents:

put source code in some sort of escrow to protect against abandonware (e.g. ECUx, ECUfix, ME7L, Nefmoto flasher... the list is very long and annoying).

Nefmoto software has an open source repository does it not?

That, and are we officially declaring it abandoneware? I was hoping Tony was just on a hiatus and would be returning.

So I did some stalking and found that Tony logged on last on Feb 13th 2013. I sent him a msg via twitter to come check the forum a couple days ago though. I want a premium licence for the nef software and read that others were still waiting for theirs. I guess he just didn't feel like communicating the last time he signed on and if he doesn't respond the next time he signs on I'm going to assume he doesn't want my money. I'm sure the dude is just busy though, who isn't really? I hope he gets back here soon though.

Unfortunately, the nef flashing software isn't in the repo.

VAGScope is open source -> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-scope/downloads.html

Can someone with C++ skills modify it to read ME7Logger config/output ?

In theory ecuxplot might be able to be adapted as well.

time permitting i will give both a shot

I would pay for it  :)

And we would just end up with more abandonware.

The only thing I would pay for is source code.

A real time fully customizable dashboard with line and bar graphs, gauges, etc assignable to any single/combination RAM variable...that I would pay for.

Maybe we can convince Tony to sell us the source for his logger?

If not, look forward to the release in Summer 2017!

Prj has done it already

Here's a link to a small clip I did when I tried it.

http://youtu.be/66kree2yA8A

It will log any variable in any format.

Yea, that's almost exactly what I was thinking. Would be nice to not have to parse ME7L, but one can't be too picky.

Sooo...I'm confused, where did you get this?

From me.
I just need to get myself together and make a version I am going to sell for say 25 EUR, and give it for free to some people who contribute.

The problem is that right now the driver is a little annoying to use due to the limitations of win log (need to configure via .ini and need to remove and readd the driver every time you add or remove variables).

So I am waiting for the winlog author to make some modifications to the winlog plugin system to allow rescanning on the fly.
After that's done, my driver will be a lot more user friendly to configure, as I can provide a UI.

Shit I would pay $100 for motivation for you man if it helps  :)
Anything like this that helps the tuning process is worth having in my mind.

Things it would have to have for me to consider paying:

- horizontal and vertical grid lines (10 each)
- adjustable min/max ranges for individual inputs
- selectable inputs (to show or hide them on line graph)
- pause button (to pause graph but not logging)
- one click to start/restart logging (need to auto name file with timestamp)
- two/three clicks to switch input groups then start logging again
- maximum graph space on screen
- input lines with different colors

think APR ECUx + VAG_Scope

I'm a line graph guy. I like to have my eyes on the road during a run and then be able to look at data for that run immediately after. With gauges the data is gone after run (expect in log of course).

Just my preference

WinLog does all that and more ...
I just wrote a bridge between WinLog and ME7Logger.

Making progress on this.

WinLog's author has sent me the first version that supports somewhat dynamic variable population.
A few more things to fix in WinLog, but so far it is looking much better.
I modified the driver as well and now it is possible to add the driver once and then use the settings button to choose the ME7Logger log file from the UI.
No more obscure .ini files.

The main limitation that is still present is that the maximum count of variables WinLog supports from a single driver is 64, but I am working to get that limitation lifted as well.

Very nice :)

Is this the "WinLog" logger you guys are talking about? http://www.devtechnics.com/winlog.htm
If not, this is a generic logger that can do up to 64 variables or something like that. there is a free version available for DL.

Yes, but it needs a driver to get any meaningful info from anywhere...
I will ping WinLog's author again.

Will your driver work with ME7.5 hopefully?

It works with ME7Logger.
Anything ME7Logger works with, it works with.

It is my understanding that ME7logger doesn't do ME7.5. (haven't tried it myself) I guess there isn't a way to modify the program either because it's author is MIA and source code is unavailable? If you have something that'll do 7.5 and still utilize WinLog lemme know. Thanks.

It does

Some newer me7.5 are tricky, for them I cut the K-line and wire the ecu right to the OBD port rather than connecting globally. Nefmoto flashes them as well :)

I will try it out.

@ddilenger I think that's what I read about it. Do you know which ECUs are the tricky ones? I'm doing this on my own car but I don't want to cut up the wiring, guess I will if I have to..

prj, how much and how long sir? :)

If it had an immobilizer, it's tricky-lol.

I found the a4 me7.5 are tricky. They need as ddillenger says a direct k-line from ecu to obd to log properly otherwise it fails to connect. What I did was splice the kline in ecu plug and run a direct wire to the obd with a 2 way switch on the obd plug so I could keep the ability to scan if needed.

On the emulator though I run a seperate k-line wire off the pins on the ecu that I can log directly off , so no what what car it's in it'll always work

Is going immo-off another option, or is direct K-line still required? 

Try SLOW-0x00 init and start logging after you go key-on.
Then start the car when it's logging. Should work after that.

^^ Gonna try that :)

It would be very nice to be able to start logging without need to turn off car. Do we know why slow-0x00 is needed on some ECUs? Could it be an easy patch in ECU code?

So this is what worked for me.

I was already connecting w/ slow INIT, but that would connect and then stop logging on my 1.8T.

What did fix it was selecting the highest baud rate for ME7L of 115000 (just like when using the NefMoto software to flash), and now I can log 1.8T's without pulling fuses etc.

SLOW-0x00 is needed because of cluster.

Starting logging while engine is running - for that a hack is needed in asm.

Have you given it enough thought to be able give a hint as to where in code or what I should start looking at? Any error variable that I could search for or do you think it is a needle in a haystack to fix this?

This method is still flaky at best... most of the time it works, but a few times last night it just wouldn't continue logging. Sometimes it would like for about 1-2 minutes and then stop, other times it would stop after 10 sec.  After a few times I just get frustrated and give up hoping that it will play nice later lol

Get a better cable. Never had such issues.

Yeah I do have another older cable around that used to work great with everything, it just wan't able to be registered w/ Nefmoto so I stopped using it once I got my other cable.

Those all blue FT232BM cables are amazing. They work with EVERYTHING.

Too bad they can't be registered :(

This is the one I have that worked w/ everything (but can't be reg'd):

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BEitr3zRh0o/Ubsj0nC7LcI/AAAAAAAAMnY/j3AqA3EaEr8/w800-h600-no/IMG_20130614_100744.jpg)

My current NefMoto reg'd cable (all blue connector + cable) is the one that seems to flake while trying to log my car.

Well so far I've tried different cables and different cars and I'm having the same issue, it will start to log and then randomly stop (usually right away when I start to get into higher loads).

So at this point I'm not sure if it's possibly my laptop (I've tried all 3 USB ports with no difference) or something driver/software related.  So next up is trying a different laptop all together.

Bumping this topic, I am still very interested to buy a solution in fashion of what have been mentioned.

Preferly a bridge into Tunerpro, but anything realtime is in my interest.

Setzi shared everything necessary for WinLog display in the ME7L thread

Ahh thanks, Bische fail :)

I've had this issue back in days with eurodyne and ecux loggers. HDD shock protection on my lenovo would kick in as soon as I would step on it and the way they implemented it was causing both loggers to stop logging altogether. I had to disable the shock protection and that did the trick.

Whenever I disable shock protection my hard drives don't last much longer. SSD FTW.

Ye sI had that too back in the day, but my laptop has an SSD and doesn't have the shock protection software at all

hi
im triyng to get gauges with winlog with me7 logger, i copy the 2 files from me7loger to winlog directory ,
in winlog setings e see me7 logger windrives e chose them i set com port 1  baud 56000 20 samples , and wont conect

anyone could help?