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Anybody have a good wiring diagram?

Do I only need k-line and power?

Attached is k-line tool (Thanks dd)

There are several pins that need power and ground, and one k-line. The pin numbers are visible inside the connectors, you might have to squint if you're getting old :)

Terminal 30 is constant, terminal 15 is switched. Terminal 31 is ground. For bench flashing just run all the 15's and 30's to 12v.

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k line and power only.

heres mine.

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EXCELLENT. Thank you, as usual.

If you pull a few more of the sensor leads from the green connector to ground, you won't be too annoyed by excessive warnings while you go about your testing.

2000+:

Blue connector:
Pin:
1 - positive (12 volts) — solid black
7 - ground (earth) — solid brown
8 - ground (coolant temp) — blue with brown stripe
9 - ground (earth) — solid brown
22 - ground (coolant level) — blue with yellow stripe
23 - positive (12 volts) — red with blue stripe
24 - ground (earth) — solid brown
25 - K-line (connect to 7 on OBD connector) — green with white stripe
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OBD connector:
Pin:
4 - ground — solid brown
5 - ground — solid brown
7- k-line — solid green
16 - positive (12 volts) — red with blue stripe

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Green connector:
Pin:
28- k-line-green/green tracer

You can pair the powers/grounds and k-lines together (powers can get paired, grounds can get paired. Do not actually connect the powers/grounds to each other).

Nye, if you end up making a cluster harness like K0mpresed, I'll pay you to buy double the parts and make two, if you're interested.

This site is better and better everyday

right now i only have one donor car for the obd and cluster connectors... not planning on buying any connectors :)

What Interface i need for this soft? I have the 1.4 version, does this interface also run with this soft?

Any kkl interface will work using this software. If you already have 1.4, then that interface should work fine.

Anybody else's anti-virus reporting that the vag commander exe contains a virus?   

There have been quite a few downloads and this is the first I've heard of it.

I scanned it with avast, avg, and norton and nothing.

Hmmm  OK, AVG is picking it up as a trojan.  Guess I'll create a restore point and press on...

Avira didn't like it at all, I ignored it and kept a close eye, and so far so good.

It's been on my netbook for over 2 years now and I haven't even gotten a hint of trouble. I keep AVG up to date, I find it gives me the least false positives.

I just scanned the @##$ out of the archive, then extracted and scanned everything individually with kaspersky, symantec and avg. All clear.

No differences noted after going ahead...

No worries, another nefmoto'er is hooking up the goods.

If you are ever unsure you can upload the offending file or archive to a site like VirusTotal.com and it will scan it with about 45 different anti-virus applications which can give you a better idea if there is a concern.

Thanks, good tip.

I fixed Keith's diagram so it's relevant to our cars. Before it was only accurate on 99< vehicles with the analog clock.

I needed to ground blue 7 and 9 as well (solid brown)

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Newest version of vag of K+CAN commander I have! Few new features, still works with your nefmoto flashing cable :)

Can someone please explain the gray connector,

My car does not have any gray connector but the new cluster has.

What does 11 - enable?

How do I kill the warnings I get with the new cluster?
Should I ground pin 14, 15 and 16?

Thank you for the info.
brgds
 

If your cluster is lacking the gray connector it means your old cluster will have a red one. Grey is for the digital clock clusters, whereas red is for the analogs. Repin the harness to match the pinouts for the cluster provided in this thread on the first page. I have a spare gray connector I could drop in the mail if you need it. LMK.

Thank you for the offer, ddillenger but I'll get one from the junkyard.

My car don't have a red one, it has a green and blue. (a3 8l -00 first ed)

whats the diffrence with this and vagtacho?

I have setup the harness as per instructions in the thread but how can I turn on all of the LED's as it would be when the headlights are turned on?

The v3.6 of the software doesn't recognize my KKL cable. It just says cannot open port upon startup. Then closes. I tried changing the port # in the tester settings .txt file but it still wont find my cable. V2.5 sees the cable, but won't connect to my cluster. Any BTDT?

Have you changed the connection to k-line from the default CAN?

Cannot on V3.6 It opens, pops a warning that it cannot find my port then closes. Never get to do anything.

On v2.5 I did change the connection to K at the bottom and the target to 07 and tried 17 too. Neither connected.

Connected now. Was a poor K-line connection to the rigged bench setup. I was using an old 2x2 adapter to connect to my cable.

If someone wanted to hook up the immo pill reader to a bench setup... would I be correct that it's pins 2 & 17 on the green connector (2000+)?

Answered my own question, yes

heres a scheme i made a while back while making various bench harnesses.
different k-line locations is only prominent difference in various 1997-2004 vw/audi clusters

V2.5 works great
V3.6 same errors as stuklr
Using the same cable, changed to k-line, and made sure com port is correct in Tester config file
Win 7 64

1. Big difference between 2.5 and 3.6? Is it worth it to figure it out?
2. Anyone have this issue?

Thanks!!

i followed these instruction as to what pins to use and now have a working cluster bench test setup!

i didn't understand what ddillinger's pictures meant though.... so thanks for your simplified version keithwbloom

DD does it work with V1.4 cable?

3.5 works with every cable I have ever tried to use with it.

Thanks for the comment DD. I ask because I need to get a pin code from a 2007 Seat Leon 1P car and I was not sure that my old K+Can V1.4 cable can be upgraded to something newer that could work with that car.

I needed to connect some more wires to get the backlight working, and get rid of the FUSE/SICH warning message on the odometer.


I have connected +12V to pins 1, 15, 20 (not necessary with facelift cluster) and 23. If I don't connect the pins 15 or 23, the odometer has text "SICH". I think that if the cluster was coded to English, it would say "FUSE".
Ground pins are 7, 9, 24.

And for the backlights, I connected pins 26 and 27 from the blue connector to +12V. In the pre facelift cluster the backlights work if the pin 20 is connected to +12V.

normally just a quick eeprom edit can get the backlights to work on start up power...no need to add any voltage

I didn't know that. And I don't want to do it either.

Hi NefMoto,
recently I made my own Bench setup Harness for testing Instrument Clusters but I have thinking to add one more feature, the Ambient temperature sensor indicator on FIS. I have two sensors with wiring and tried, but when I power up the Instrument Cluster shut down.

- Temp. Sensor P/N (1J0 919 379A) - fitting on the left side of front Bumper
- Pin 1 (12V DC +)
- Pin 2 (GND)

I connected the T32a Green Connector wire pin 26 to +12V DC and pin 1 from Sensor to the power, the pin 2 to the GND but I'm not sure is this the right way and I don't know is the Sensor working on this voltage or maybe on +5V DC.

Have someone tried this feature to add on harness to see the ambient temperature on FIS, when yes, please share the results and wiring here?

Pin 1 of Sensor to Pin 26 of T32a (green), Pin 2 to Pin 7 of T32 (blue) which is Sensor GND.

It's beautiful to see half FIS with temperature.
Thx Schumo for your help, your schematic help me to get this small additional information on FIS.