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Technical => Cluster and Immobilizer => Topic started by: ddillenger on March 31, 2013, 03:43:17 PM



Title: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: ddillenger on March 31, 2013, 03:43:17 PM
I can't get vag-commander 3.6 working with my ross-tech cable, only 2.5..

anybody else have problems with 3.6?

It works with my dumb cable, but someone else said it didn't work for them?

2.5 works with everything though.


Title: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: nyet on March 31, 2013, 04:52:27 PM
It works with my dumb cable, but someone else said it didn't work for them?

2.5 works with everything though.

3.6 includes ftchipid.dll, which is worrisome.

It is definitely looking for a ftdi id (or at least a certain kind of ftdi chip that supports a certain kind of id)... which might explain why 3.6 doesn't work with my Ross-tech cable, my dumb ftdi cable (forgot which flavor), and my ch340 based kkl cable... but 2.5 does work with all three :)


Title: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: ddillenger on March 31, 2013, 05:02:14 PM
My cable is as dumb as they come. I'm just running a random galletto EPT on it that I found works with the most programs. I will note that it only works plugged into a specific USB port on my computer, but I assume that has to do with com-port assignment. You did edit the tester.ini file to display the correct port number for your cable right? I just tested it, works flawlessly with my standard ebay cable. I'd never upload something that didn't work for me, so I find it odd that it isn't working for you guys. I can upload my cable EPT if requested, just let me know!

(http://i45.tinypic.com/34ql4ds.jpg)


Title: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: nyet on March 31, 2013, 05:03:52 PM
You did edit the tester.ini file to display the correct port number for your cable right?

yep. i've tried pretty much all com ports with device manager, no joy.


Title: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: ddillenger on March 31, 2013, 05:18:07 PM
Port and driver settings.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/ajv72u.jpg)

EPT I'm using is attached.


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: sweegie on March 31, 2013, 05:49:22 PM
This has been doing my nut in for 2 weeks... So much so I have looked at the possibility of unpacking 3.6 which is not simple (execryptor), then trying to intercept the calls to the ftdi libraries with no success, then looking at writing a dll to proxy requests to the ftdi libraries....

I need to buy a new cable too as the galletto cable i've been testing with has issues anyway.... Will look at one of the plain jane dumb ones with a ft232r chipset and resume testing.


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: eliotroyano on April 02, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
I notice that many have been using modded Vag K+Can Commander V2.5 or V3.6 software for KKL interfaces with some sucess. But testing it I notice that some times it is unstable or slow in response. If you basically want to read/modify/write an ECU/Airbag/Cluster eeprom and/or change the info in it you can test this little software from my friends of Digital-Kaos --> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/car-dumps-database/34/vag-eeprom-programmer-1-19g-2121/ (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/car-dumps-database/34/vag-eeprom-programmer-1-19g-2121/).

I have a test bench cable for Clusters and I have tested with VDO and Motometer clusters working quite good. And the best part is it uses a simple KKL FTDI based interface. The only drawback is that I think that it is compatible with cars up to 2006 or 2007 when Micronas cluster starts to appears in VAG cars.

Enjoy it!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: ddillenger on April 02, 2013, 02:18:31 PM
Because it requires registration, I'll post it here.

I was really hoping it would read ecu eeproms, but alas, it fails :(


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: KWest on April 04, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
ddillenger,
  Any chance you are using a 32bit OS? I produce a cable for Aprilia motorcycles that is based on the FTDI chipset, I know if my program is compiled for 32/64 bit OS and is run on a 64bit machine the FTDI ChipID dll throws an error.

I have tested 3.6 you posted on 2 different KKL cables, and 2 of my own FTDI based cables without luck. However all the computers have been 64bit machines.


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: ddillenger on April 04, 2013, 11:56:21 PM
I am using a 32bit OS, windows xp to be specific. I find it gives the best results with the most programs.

I suppose that might be the issue. You 64bit guys might be stuck with the older version :P


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: KWest on April 05, 2013, 06:40:17 AM
I will try it on a 32bit Win7 netbook I have this weekend. Also I think I have a modified .dll for ChipID for 64bit machines, I'll have to look around.


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: Frenchfries on August 27, 2013, 08:31:13 AM
I know it's an older post, but I would like to notify that I tried with exactly the same configuration and it doesn't work for me.
Indeed,win xp 32 bits, galetto cable upgraded with the same .ept.
Is it possible that the software was been changed?
Somebody has found something about it?


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: ddillenger on August 27, 2013, 08:41:24 AM
I know it's an older post, but I would like to notify that I tried with exactly the same configuration and it doesn't work for me.
Indeed,win xp 32 bits, galetto cable upgraded with the same .ept.
Is it possible that the software was been changed?
Somebody has found something about it?

Apparently I'm the only one for whom 3.6 works with a standard FTDI cable. Not sure if it's my computer, but I have 2 different cables from 2 different suppliers and they both work with 3.6.

If it doesn't work for you, stick with v2.5. I don't see much difference between them, and 2.5 hasn't been reported not to work for anyone as of yet.


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: djeegopaco on August 28, 2013, 01:28:28 AM
I have a question regarding the 2.5 version of commandeur. Its seems to be working But i can not get any data/eeprom. Its says its connented to my motometer cash vw lupo But when i click on read i Dont see any data com in.u
What am i doping wrong. Windows 7 with a kkl cable ft232r


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: Frenchfries on August 29, 2013, 05:07:01 AM
You're a lucky guy, because currently, my cable is recognised by the 2.5 software, but I can't have a connection with cars.
I can hear the contactor of the car, but no response from the controlleur.
I think my latency time is not correct  but I have to confirm it.
However, I can use vagprogrammer with the default setting.
For your case, it's possible that the software can't read this kind of dash. Is it working for other functions?


Title: Re: VAG K+ CAN 2.5 vs 3.6 problems
Post by: djeegopaco on August 30, 2013, 11:40:07 AM
engine ecu is a simos but also no reaction. and when i click on immo again the same, i have a connection but no data???
and this is just with the lupo transporter is no problem and gone try a golf this weekend.
but i really need it to work for the lupo because its a client of mine.
Thanks for reading and thinking of a solution...