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Title: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: s-company on January 25, 2011, 08:59:30 AM Hello!
Is there a useful tool to read and write DSG Files over OBD? I know Byteshooter can, but are there also others? Best Regards Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Tony@NefMoto on January 26, 2011, 07:11:28 PM In theory the DSG controller should support all of the same protocols for diagnostics as the ECU.
So if we know the KWP2000 address of teh DSG controller, the NefMoto ECU Flasher should be able to read and write it. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on January 27, 2011, 03:50:21 PM I dont know if it works, I am not an owner of DSG. So give it a try if you want. Let us know if you are successful.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: 99pwr on January 28, 2011, 12:00:11 AM I tryed this software, don't work for me. I used galletto 1250 tool for reading.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on January 29, 2011, 03:08:59 PM maybe needs kkl style usb to serial cable. I have no idea, try what cables you have. If i knew of DSG local i would try :)
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: s-company on April 14, 2011, 07:48:16 AM any news here?
i am still searching for a tool to read dsg over OBD. BR Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RedRotors on April 14, 2011, 02:03:25 PM any news here? i am still searching for a tool to read dsg over OBD. BR Byteshooter can read DSG, they have a special module ( 009 ) for it. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: s-company on April 16, 2011, 09:51:35 AM i think this module is for new dsg, not golf mk5 etc...and anyway too expensive.
maybe there is a better solution out there. BR Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on June 11, 2011, 08:07:41 AM bring this one back, bought a mk5 DSG :)
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: lulu2003 on June 13, 2011, 05:28:26 AM Did your EOBD1300 work for your car?
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on June 14, 2011, 01:52:50 PM You know, i have yet to try it out, as the mk5 i bought has broke down twice in the last 4 weeks since i bought it CPO, least its got warranty. And i am severely stalled on my mk4 1.8t development since i keep having to drive my BT around....
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: jtorres on June 23, 2011, 11:14:20 PM hey rarak, do you have an idea who did that software?
looking for your results! Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on June 24, 2011, 06:09:09 PM hey rarak, do you have an idea who did that software? looking for your results! not sure, theres some independent tools out there, im assuming this is one, i dont see it being so difficult to read the dsg if i throw a logic analyzer and sniffer on my mpps when reading the fbin out, probably same seed. But who knows...... CAN com's are a little more documented than kwp for sure! Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: msundercober on June 25, 2011, 12:38:31 AM I tried it a while ago and no cable worked fo me.
I use Byteshooter for r/w DSG and it works well. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: jtorres on June 26, 2011, 08:47:34 PM not sure, theres some independent tools out there, im assuming this is one, i dont see it being so difficult to read the dsg if i throw a logic analyzer and sniffer on my mpps when reading the fbin out, probably same seed. But who knows...... CAN com's are a little more documented than kwp for sure! Can you read DSG with the MPPS? if so, i want to know how, because i own an original one. Updated to the new version 8. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on June 27, 2011, 06:58:11 AM No not with MPPS AFAIK, just byteshooter with Mod9. Here is a DSG file for ya'll to look at though
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: jtorres on June 27, 2011, 09:43:10 AM OK, thanks for the info anyway! Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on April 24, 2013, 07:54:29 AM sorry to dig this up anyone know if the cmd flash will read DSG?
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: nokiafix on April 24, 2013, 11:31:12 AM sorry to dig this up anyone know if the cmd flash will read DSG? read and write perfect, done about 8 with CMD and about 30 with byteshooter Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on April 24, 2013, 11:35:47 AM thanks for the feedback
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on May 17, 2013, 01:14:30 AM ok got my cmd can flasher v1251 but cant find how to read the dsg ecu?
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: yosh on May 17, 2013, 06:42:57 AM Start CMD FLASH, scroll to VW and DSG is up top...
Chose your generation and ID... Only late G5 in SA were via CAN so should be OBD read/ write... Not sure if this works on the clone as the SW version was incorrect... Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: scalp06 on May 17, 2013, 11:51:53 PM ok got my cmd can flasher v1251 but cant find how to read the dsg ecu? Only official cmd tool can operate on dsg! This protocol is new (few month) and the clone tool 1251 has 3 year old. Be carreful with cmd1251 clone, i've broke few ecu with this tool few years old! Br. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on May 19, 2013, 10:04:01 AM Start CMD FLASH, scroll to VW and DSG is up top... Chose your generation and ID... Only late G5 in SA were via CAN so should be OBD read/ write... Not sure if this works on the clone as the SW version was incorrect... nah I dont have that option.... sigh Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: yosh on May 20, 2013, 04:02:22 AM Going to have to get original tool bru...
CMD, SPI, BS, etc... Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on May 20, 2013, 04:22:52 AM Going to have to get original tool bru... CMD, SPI, BS, etc... ja yosh but for a hobbyist thats quite a bit of moola to fork out........... Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Rick on May 20, 2013, 05:55:08 AM Just get a DSG tune from somewhere by you, problem solved.
Rick Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on May 20, 2013, 08:04:43 AM Just get a DSG tune from somewhere by you, problem solved. Rick its like everything after learning this stuff myself I dont trust any of even the pro tuners stuff! Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on May 21, 2013, 07:11:54 PM its like everything after learning this stuff myself I dont trust any of even the pro tuners stuff! Why? pro tuners make the stuff everyone "learns" from on here? they just spend more time on things making it perfect rather than a canned tune to get done and sell thats all. everyone tends to specialize on their own cars, so obviously everyones more in depth with their own cars. If i were apr, id spend a few weeks, make good power, then move on to the next car in line. Cant spend ages on 1 car you know...just business. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: airtite on May 22, 2013, 02:12:51 AM Why? pro tuners make the stuff everyone "learns" from on here? they just spend more time on things making it perfect rather than a canned tune to get done and sell thats all. everyone tends to specialize on their own cars, so obviously everyones more in depth with their own cars. If i were apr, id spend a few weeks, make good power, then move on to the next car in line. Cant spend ages on 1 car you know...just business. agreed but recently I decided to buy a tune from someone on one of the other forums and to be honest I wasnt impressed with some of the changes made. Look clearly the guy knows his stuff but when I see things like KFMLDMX just put to 1200kgh except in the first row/column it makes me wonder.... and as you say this is for my own car and I prefer being able to firstly learn how it all works and secondly be able to play and make changes as I go. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: RaraK on May 22, 2013, 06:30:24 PM agreed but recently I decided to buy a tune from someone on one of the other forums and to be honest I wasnt impressed with some of the changes made. Look clearly the guy knows his stuff but when I see things like KFMLDMX just put to 1200kgh except in the first row/column it makes me wonder.... and as you say this is for my own car and I prefer being able to firstly learn how it all works and secondly be able to play and make changes as I go. sadly with dsg though, tools are a lot of money, as are the damos for them! and finding anyone who can tune them to give you something to work off of is much fewer. i wont lie, typically on tunes for people out of my country on cars i have not worked on in person, i do make some maps higher than normal, just forgiving thats all. thats what you get on "mail order" tunes though really. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 12, 2014, 08:10:18 PM From what I can tell you can't read Dq200 and DQ250 over OBD2, you have to connect it directly to the TCU. I know my Galletto 4 tool shows up when I open EOBD1300.exe. I'm just waiting on some parts to build a cable to connect to the TCU and then I'll see if you can read and write a file. Should be doing that this weekend.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Rick on August 13, 2014, 01:26:26 AM Byteshooter does DQ250 Cxx OBD
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 13, 2014, 08:59:31 AM Byteshooter does DQ250 Cxx OBD Haver you tried it? I know that several big tuning house here in the USA that use Byteshooter and they connect directly to the TCU. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Rick on August 13, 2014, 10:52:21 AM Yes, many times.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 18, 2014, 12:19:35 PM Just to give an update I was able to read my DQ250 on my 2006 Audi A3 with EODB1300.exe, a custom built harness connected to the TCU, and a FT232RL-Chip cable. This is the files that I read. (All for under $50)
HW #: 02E300042Q 0926 SW #: 02E927770AD Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Rick on August 18, 2014, 02:48:05 PM File is good :)
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 19, 2014, 04:45:33 PM Ok So I posted the file that I read with my own cable for the DQ250. So here it is.
Parts (All of them I got on ebay) Transmission Connector Pigtail - The part number for the connector is 1J0 927 320 and then you just need to wires that fit. The best way to get the wires it to get a pig tail from a VW round transmission pigtail. There are not a lot of them out there but if you look hard enough you'll find them 12-Volt Lighter to Alligator Clips - I cut off the lighter and just used the Alligator Clips OBD2 100cm 16Pin Male to Female Extension Cable - Just cut the male end off (ouch!) FT232RL-Chip OBD2 Cable - Software EOBD1300.exe (See previous post for the exe) After that I used these images and wired up the cable. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: terminator on August 19, 2014, 04:52:36 PM If I have understood you correctly, licensed FGtech can read and write DSG?
I dont know how BS works, but CMD is able only to write DSG via OBD and download the file from the server (virtual read). Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 19, 2014, 04:54:39 PM If I have understood you correctly, licensed FGtech can read and write DSG? I dont know how BS works, but CMD is able only to write DSG via OBD and download the file from the server (virtual read). I couldn't get FGtech to work, I used a cheap FT232RL-Chip OBD2 Cable. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: terminator on August 19, 2014, 05:03:35 PM Maybe I'm blind but there is no EOBD1300.exe on the forum. :)
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 19, 2014, 05:16:45 PM Sorry I think it is called DSG READ.rar
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: terminator on August 19, 2014, 05:24:45 PM Thanks, its on the first page of the thread.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Rick on August 23, 2014, 02:35:53 PM Works on early Cxx, but not Exx, Fxx, DQ200, DQ500 etc.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 25, 2014, 08:41:44 AM Works on early Cxx, but not Exx, Fxx, DQ200, DQ500 etc. Do you know if this is because the software needs to be updated or you need a cable that has a different protocol? On another note, who made "EOBD1300.exe"? Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 26, 2014, 09:23:12 PM I wanted to give a quick update. I have read my car and have validated that the read was good. I used the EOBD1300.exe to do this. I have made the changes to the file, and now I'm trying to write them to the TCU, but I can't seem to get EOBD1300.exe to write a file to the TCU. I can read the binary file no problem and can identify the DSG, but that's it.
Any suggestions? Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: k0mpresd on August 26, 2014, 09:30:25 PM suggestion: buy a real tool. are you going to be excited when you brick your dsg controller? probably not.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 26, 2014, 09:55:48 PM suggestion: buy a real tool. are you going to be excited when you brick your dsg controller? probably not. No I wouldn't be happy at all ;D ... Your totally right. I'm looking into getting SPI-Wizard III or byteshooter. but in the mean time I'm trying to see if I can test my files till I get them. Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: aef on August 26, 2014, 11:37:38 PM time to buy the mini dsg reader from china ;D
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: terminator on August 27, 2014, 06:14:05 AM and spare mechatronic ;)
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on August 27, 2014, 08:33:10 AM and spare mechatronic ;) :D :D I already have one on order, just incase ;) Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: terminator on August 27, 2014, 10:32:13 AM it seems you understand the whole process of DSG tuning by chinese tool :)
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: everydayparadise on October 13, 2014, 10:23:30 AM Finally getting back on trying to flash my DSG. Does anyone know if you can use VC-Pro to flash BIN files to the DQ250 or the DQ200
http://www.vag-tech.eu/ (http://www.vag-tech.eu/) Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Volsssy on August 30, 2015, 04:48:54 AM Yes, many times.
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: aef on February 21, 2016, 06:33:04 AM Is this really able to write BIN? Think its only SGO
Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: eliotroyano on April 26, 2016, 06:40:50 PM Ok So I posted the file that I read with my own cable for the DQ250. So here it is. Parts (All of them I got on ebay) Transmission Connector Pigtail - The part number for the connector is 1J0 927 320 and then you just need to wires that fit. The best way to get the wires it to get a pig tail from a VW round transmission pigtail. There are not a lot of them out there but if you look hard enough you'll find them 12-Volt Lighter to Alligator Clips - I cut off the lighter and just used the Alligator Clips OBD2 100cm 16Pin Male to Female Extension Cable - Just cut the male end off (ouch!) FT232RL-Chip OBD2 Cable - Software EOBD1300.exe (See previous post for the exe) After that I used these images and wired up the cable. Friend sorry to ask, but how do you take out pins from donor VW round transmission pigtail? Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: eliotroyano on April 27, 2016, 07:53:56 AM (http://www.rx7club.com/attachments/engine-management-forum-37/191203-amp-circular-plastic-connectors-cpcs-series_i_ext_6x4.jpg)
Maybe I found the answer to my doubt..... Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: aef on April 27, 2016, 11:51:28 AM This is the plug:
(https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/582703_x800.jpg) and in europe we have this: http://www.tool-is.com/product/374946/ref/76189 not sure about the diameter in milimeter Title: Re: Which tool to read DSG files (Me7 R32, ME9 MK5 GTI etc...) Post by: Wanka7a on May 17, 2020, 04:34:55 AM Did someone succeed to WRITE flash with this software EOBD1300.EXE?
I know .. "buy a real tool" or "buy a spare mechatronics" but I am looking for information about exactly this software. It identifies tcu ,reads flash ,no problem but when I press WRITE FLASH it does nothing. Just says Programming flash... and thats it. Doesn't even give me a chance to select a flash to write. I think maybe there is some trick to get it work at least to select a flash even if it doesn't get to write it in the tcu. If someone have any idea would be great. Thanks |