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Technical => Flashing and Chipping => Topic started by: temporarychicken on April 16, 2013, 06:15:30 AM



Title: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: temporarychicken on April 16, 2013, 06:15:30 AM
This is a very noobish question I realise, but I am new to this forum!

I have a 2009 model Auid TT RS manual in standard, unmodified spec., and would like to download the ECU map in a binary, and then study it, with a view to modifying perhaps and re-flashing later.

The car used an MED9.1 ECU, and I believe since the build date was June 2009, will not have any encryption protection.

I already have a VCDS cable, which I believe will suffice for this purpose.

My question is, what software do I need to download the map from the ECU via the OBD-II port, and subsequently view/edit it?

Many thanks in advance


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: prj on April 16, 2013, 06:30:31 AM
I already have a VCDS cable, which I believe will suffice for this purpose.

No, it will not.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: temporarychicken on April 16, 2013, 06:57:23 AM
Ok, thanks.

What cable and software would you recommend?

Is this the sort of thing I should be looking for:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221212761650 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221212761650)

Or is that just a cheap imitiation of what I really need?


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: ddillenger on April 16, 2013, 11:22:41 AM
Yes, that's a cheap clone, but it should work for your purposes. Consider getting a BDM so you can make a full backup of the flash and e2p prior to any work.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: IamwhoIam on April 17, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
TT RS is bad news for "studying with a view to modifying perhaps reflashing later".


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: prj on April 17, 2013, 07:09:20 AM
TT RS is bad news for "studying with a view to modifying perhaps reflashing later".

+1, good luck with that.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: Beaviz on April 17, 2013, 07:15:52 AM
MPPS clones should be okay. The never v16 should be good (better than the older clones, where the quality could vary) according to a couple of guys at DigitalKaos.

I myself have been using a MPPS v12 clone to read/write MED9.1 successfully (not my own maps).


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: RaraK on April 17, 2013, 10:08:53 AM
TTRS/RS3 is not "normal" med9.x, you will need bdm to get around tuner protection.

Good luck tuning this, you have a hard road ahead.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: temporarychicken on April 22, 2013, 12:51:09 AM
Thanks guys for all the good advice here thusfar - some really good tips.

With regard to Tuner Protection, I am given to understand that this was not released on the TT RS until about September 2009. The first few cars did produced did not have this feature, and were flashable via OBD2. Later models are as suggested, only tunable via ECU removal and bench-flashing.

My car was built in June 2009, so I may be just slightly in advance of this cut-over data and still capable of read/write via. OBD2.

In any case, the best MPPS clone I can find on Ebay is ver 13. I've ordered it and will update this post again when I've managed to read (and post up) the ECU file.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: matchew on April 22, 2013, 06:22:07 AM
Clone tools are going to get you no where with this.

This is NOT the ECU to start learning motronic with, It will fast become a paper weight.

Even the "Best" tuner in the VAG world cant do it.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: player on April 23, 2013, 03:13:58 AM
Clone tools are going to get you no where with this.

This is NOT the ECU to start learning motronic with, It will fast become a paper weight.

Even the "Best" tuner in the VAG world cant do it.

+1


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: arson-panda on May 09, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
Originals attached


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: nyet on May 09, 2013, 02:40:04 PM
Wow. Thank you :)

You rock.


Title: Re: Downloading OEM map from an Audi TT RS 2009 (MED9)
Post by: de_Fre on March 09, 2014, 09:32:40 PM
Anyone knows if original MPPS solves the Extra Checksumm ?