NefMoto

I'm looking at a project car I want to build into a cheap track whore.

Its AEB (DBC).  From searching nefmoto, i gather you cant flash it from in car w/o adding a switch to power the flash write pin, and that the nefmoto flasher wont work with it (and i dont have MPPS).

is converting to ATW worth the trouble? Is it relatively easy? I assume nefmoto flasher can flash ATW over OBD connector in car.

Especially since i'm pretty familiar with ME7 at this point...

If you're gonna convert to ME7, might as well go AWM for wideband o2. You'll need a throttle body, harness, and MAP, as AEBs dont have a charge pressure sensor, only an external BARO sensor.

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Just bridge the female connectors on the OBD port as shown, and you can flash 5.92 in the car with MPPS.

As for the conversion: Absolutely worth it. ME7 is much easier since you're already familiar, you can do REAL emissions deletes, and you won't be learning from scratch. It's very easy. Some say you'll never get it to run right, but I'd just install the VVT cam tensioner, egt sensor, and wideband 02 along with the rest of the required sensors. Good to go!

BTDT, nothing hard. VVT isn't needed either.

Can i leave pin 43 powered permanently, or should i make a switch for it?

pin 43 connects to the OBD port. Just bridge the pins shown (The diagram is backwards) when you flash.

If you power it permanently, you'll get a no-start and no comms with VCDS (too many communication errors to continue).

Question is, do i really want to shell out for MPPS for this ONE project?

16 bucks.

It works better than nefmoto. Even if you fail a flash, it reconnects. I haven't needed bootomode since I bought it. If nefmoto fails, I connect with MPPS even when vcds can't.

oh. clone :/

don't like buying clones but aight i guess it can't hurt.

got any preferred vendors?

6 one way, half dozen the other. I just get whichever's the cheapest/quickest on ebay.

You can spring for the authentic version, if I find a deal on one I'm going to get it.

Hi,

is this possibly with the older style block?
no problems with knocksensors and so on?

any experienced data?

NYET if you need some support I can help you as much I can.
About MPPS if you find the right one (there are some HQ clones), it will work quite good without troubles.
About M592 to ME75 I have a spreadsheet for wiring/harness conversion.
About programming pin (normally pin#13 in OBD port) some Audi doesn't have it in OBD port, just wiring goes up to big block of connectors driver's side under windshield but doesn't continues to OBD port.

Well I just got a moates so presumably if i'm serious about this i will just use the EMU for tuning, and only need to flash it once when I'm done :)

 :o  :o  :o Yes you are totally right!

I've done it too, not hard at all just a bit time consuming. Definitely go with an AWM ECU too, makes no sense not to. There's a lot of small things like sensors that will need to be swapped over, and you'll need to make a harness for the throttle pedal and cruise control switch along with a bit of splicing under the dash but that's basically the gist of it. I've got a spreadsheet too but I started with a v6 so some pins might be different. All in all it was much easier than I expected, at least 90% of the pins on the square connectors behind the ECU matched right up.

Okay great. Thank you guys.

I thought i read about problems because of the old block layout years ago.
Today i found out that the ANB is a me7 equipped old style block engine.
Didnt know this before.

ATW is too, it's an 058 block with a small port head and no VVT. I'm running an ATW in a 99.5 with an AWM ECU and harness and the hardest part about adapting the harness was swapping the plugs for a bunch of sensors since the AWM harness uses the newre all plastic style. With an AEB you'll need to do that and swap the cam sensor ring from a DBW motor, there's really not much to it.

does anybody implement ME7.5 with dbc throttle?

No, because the E part stands for electronic. The whole basis of the management is the electronic pedal bit.

thank you for reply.

can you say, it possible to connect bosch pedal and throttle from alfa romeo? i mean, does i need to edit pot values?

I have no idea.  Why though?

Becouse, i use non VAG auto :D

The hardest bit was swapping the peddle box to DBW. I converted a 99 DBC A4 to DBW easliy enough on my driweway. If I can do it anyone can.

ME7 is much cleverer than 5.92, it allowed me easy use of cruise control, and added some redundant safety features that 5.92 cannot compete with IMHO

I chose to add the VVT, aids spool and driveabilty in the real world, especially if you have a laggy ish turbo.