NefMoto

I know its a little off topic regarding to Tuning ,but there are a lot of ME7.5 specialists here,please if anyone has any idea whats going on with my case.

I had the wierdist thing today.I was logging a Revo`ed Ibiza FR with VCDS then ME7logger and then I just atempted to read it with nefmoto (really I dont know why,I know they can`t be read).
I also did a clear ECU faults with VCDS and an EPC reset (block 060).
When I fire the car again,it didnt boost at all..
I have an SPS3 ,so I plugged it in I switched to Mode 2 (Tune) again , fired it up.It boosts a lot higher but not as it used to be (1.3bars instead of 1.45) the EPC pedal was very slow.
I decieded to do again a block 060 reset ,and I had an error.After some attempts and when I switched to Mode 1 (stock) to be able to do it,the adaptation was successfull but still the car doesnt boost and the throttle is still slow..

What happened ?I know just logging cant affect an ECU ,was a bad thing I  tried to read it with Nefmoto?I have tried again.Was it just luck and I have problems with EPC ?

P.S.  I had no response from block 112 either from the begining of the logging when the car felt right .Just mentioning

Read the eeprom, see if the contents have been changed.

You DID backup your eeprom right? I mean if my tune were locked to a specific file that takes 30 seconds to save, I'd definitely make sure to back it up.

See if the eeprom has NEFMTO near the bottom.

No I have never touched or attempted to  read Revo with an other way .I just have a spare ECU to try my tunes in my car. :-\
Just connecting with nefmoto and attempting to read could lead to such a thing?

I think its time to attempt to write over the revo file.I screwd up big time :)

How about reconnecting the boost hose you most likely blew off or made a hole in? ;)

You need to turn revo settings back on, You need to be a revo dealer or have a sps maybe.
As a dealer I know what just happened, Yes I think its in the eeprom but unless he read it
first I don't know how you could tell.

Rule number one when dealing with aftermarket software (that you want to keep). Make a backup of the eeprom.

this is true, but in this case any revo dealer can turn it back on. If they charge it should not be more than twenty dollars.
I'll post a read from a good revo tuned car, If we want to try to figure it out.
The eeprom should be good for revo on.

Do you know what address are modified with the SPS and when it reverts back to stock with a power failure? I have an old 1st gen SPS unit I may be able to map some changes. Should be two positions with 0-9 for number of possibilities.

I have an SPS3 switch ,it wouldnt do a throttle adaptation, so I had to put it on stock (mode 1) .
What I dont understand if how the eeprom changed,just attempting to read it ? is that possible..?

Carsinc .VWaudigy ,it never reverts back to stock even without a battery for a month.But just in case I changed again the settings (HB9 T7) but no luck.

Didilinger you are absolutely right  ,I never expected a typical logging run would end up like this.

I had one do this when I read that eeprom bin I posted.
They do it most common when the alternator fails and car is driven to low voltage.

I really wish its hardware related.But such a coinsidence ? I will report back.

In case I want Revo out  usining SPS3 to switch to stock mode and just flashing will be enough ?

I'm not sure I understood?
I think you may be able to turn revo back on by switch maps with your sps. If that does not work a revo dealer
can do it real easy no refash. Under the dealer setting there is a option to turn on or off the revo.

I mean make the ECU completely stock :)

no the revo stock file is not a stock file at all.

I know you are right , what I am saying is if I dont find a solution and I want to revert it to stock , before flashing an .ori  I would revert back to stock with SPS3 also ,since it messes with eeprom also ,and I have no dumb of my eeprom (stupid I know)

Most ME7.5 eeproms are the same, just make sure to reset adaptations and softcoding after flashing. The revo eeprom will work without an issue.

Didilinger thank you.Thank you all guys for your interest !

Yes even just attempting to read w/ NEFMOTO flasher will kill the REVO program (as said it changes the signature of the eeprom).  Had that happen to me as well on a friends car.

Post your eeprom so I can compare to the eeprom I have.
Worst case If your happy with revo send me the ecu I'll turn revo back on for you. and ship it back.

Thank you a lot.I will try to read it as soon as I can and post it..Applaud :)

The protocol nefmoto flasher uses requires a 5 digit signature from the tool doing the programming to be recorded in the eeprom to exit the session. Some tuning files don't like that.

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I'm hoping we can figure out the difference between his 95040 and good one I took off a revo working car.
I think with some help it can be done.

I understand , I just didnt expect that by just connecting and attempting to read (with no success) ,Nefmoto leaves any traces.
Just in case , I am just wondering , If I  didnt hit disconnect and I just closed it -I am pretty sure I didnt ,but just saying -,what could have happened ? I am trying to remember my steps exactly

hmm this has happened before , I am wondering what happened to this car after.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2006.0

Maybe you can compare the contents to a few others and see if those areas are all standard across, and remove the nefmoto tag?

Yes,thats the idea, tommorow I am reading my 95040 and I will post.I have already tried the SPS3 ,to change the boost , the car boosts well now ,but not what it used to ,also my EPC feels really unrisponsive even after the succesfull recalibration

Might be useless but I did the same with my Revo tune. 

Used nefmoto to see and 'read' the ecu which put it in to valet mode.  Only a revo dealer could clear it with their current software.  SPS can do a little (as you have mentioned) but won't have full tune until the revo dealer takes it out of this mode.

Well yes and no, the adjustments and settings that are done by the revo dealer make changes to the eeprom. we are hoping we can find those changes and
change them back.

XVI32 or nothing

Sorry to bump an old thread but... XVI32? Tiger, did you ever figure out the differences?

I used another "healthy" REVO e2p which I did Immo off and it worked , BUT
I recommend to just get rid of REVO.

I really hate that they interfare with e2p ,even with their demos.
Also a factory "update" or "reprogrammin" via VAS will not solve the e2p problem.
Only the REVO dealers ,which at least here they charge

Just had a read of the thread and I'm surprised that nefmoto messing around and leaves a tag in there.

Nothing surprises me with revo these days lol

"nothing surprises me with revo these days lol"

You do realize that the issue here is that the OP tried to read out the software with a tool that MODIFIES the EEprom? How the hell is that Revo's fault?

Revo messes with e2p. That is the problem. When working at the local SEAT dealers (that for quite some time it was also a REVO dealer) we had problems updating 1.4 16V BBZ and a lot of 20vt engines that where REVO`ed.

Also ,the DEMO was advertised as such : You have a stage 1 for 8 hours and then you have a completely stock car.
WRONG! It was still modified (ofcourse..) with messed up LDRXN probably maps that was even weaker than the ori file and still
messed with e2p (counter) . It was a pain in the ass for the dealers .
Back then you had 2 options ,try (and be lucky) and do a stock "update" to the same or newer version OR pay REVO for a stage 1...