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Technical => Diagnostics => Topic started by: malec on September 01, 2013, 01:11:29 PM



Title: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: malec on September 01, 2013, 01:11:29 PM
Hi!

I took some logs on my S3 AMK engine and the max MAF value I see is 170 g/s. The only problem I can spot in the logs is that on higher revs the actual boost does not meet the requested and WGDC is 95%

Can anybody confirm that I need to adjust the actuator?

The 3th gear WOT log starts at line 338  or at 20.867 seconds.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: ddillenger on September 01, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
What makes you think your turbo can make more than 15psi at redline? The graph below is an APX TT225.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qscga0.png)


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: malec on September 01, 2013, 11:45:15 PM
Hi!

This APX log looks really good comparing to mine.  The max requested is 16 PSI at redline, but I don't reach this level and also there is a big spike and then the boost goes lower than requested.
How would the MAF reading increase without increasing boost?

Regards!


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: nyet on September 02, 2013, 12:24:06 AM

I don't reach this level and also there is a big spike and then the boost goes lower than requested.
Yes. you are requesting too much boost.

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How would the MAF reading increase without increasing boost?

Your rpms are increasing faster than your boost is dropping.


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: malec on September 02, 2013, 01:10:04 AM
Hi!

I agree with you, the rpm is increasing faster than the boost is dropping, but my MAF max reading is 170g/s, how can the airflow increase to 190 ~ 200 g/s?  I guess this is possible by increasing the boost a little bit at high rpm, am I right?


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: nyet on September 02, 2013, 01:11:54 AM
You're obsessing over the wrong problem.


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: malec on September 02, 2013, 01:37:50 AM
Hi!

Could you please give any hint?  I will try to study more based on your input. 

Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: nyet on September 02, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
What did you gather from dd's response?


Title: Re: Boost issue, wastegate actuator adjustment?
Post by: malec on September 02, 2013, 11:23:02 AM
Hi!

So, from what I understand is that this turbo can't make more than 15 PSI at redline 6800 rpm. From the APX graph I see it does 15 PSI at 6500. Why is this the maximum pressure for a K04-023? By looking at the compressor map and to my current flow 170 g/s measured by MAF, 190g/s calculated by ECUxPlot,  I see that the flow in cubic meter per second is 0.158, so with almost 2 the compressor ratio I can still raise the boost and I don't go outside the map, but as I can see in the logs the requested boost is not meet. Did I hit the turbo limit? Or this is just the actuator that needs some adjustment?

Regards!