NefMoto

hi guys

not sure this is in the right place ,sorry if it is not ,i have been to loads of audi/vw forums and im not sure if they not sure what to do or they just wont help me so i was told by a mate to post here so here goes ... please help me my car has been stuck for over 3 weeks now

ok i got a audi a4 97 the car will start for 3 sec then die's i have been told its the immobilizer and i need to get it scanned by a pro, so i did what i think most ppl do i searched the net and bought the cable and software off ebay , did the scan and was told my key needs to be programmed back .so i bought other software to get the skc code to do the key programming and bought a new key and i cant get the car to see the key !!!

so now im stuck with 2 cables and software and a new key and nothing works  

please help im going mad here please i just want the car to move


VAG-COM Version: Release  311.2-N


Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,16,17,25,35,37,45,55,56,57,67,75,76,77
 
Address 01     -------------------------------------------------------
   Controller: 3B0 907 557 A  
   Component: 1,6l R4/2V SIMOS HS D02
   Coding: 04001
   Shop #: WSC 00000
1 Fault Found:
17978 - Unknown Error Code
            P1570 - 35-00 - Unknown Error Elaboration
Readiness: N/A

Address 03     -------------------------------------------------------
   Controller: 8E0 614 111    
   Component: ABS 5.3 FRONT       D11
   Coding: 0273004132  
   Shop #: BB 24303
No fault code found.

Skipping Address 15-Airbags

Address 17     -------------------------------------------------------
   Controller: 8D0 919 035 S  
   Component: B5_KOMBIINSTRUMENT  D09
   Coding: 00442
   Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.

Address 25     -------------------------------------------------------
   Controller: 4A0 953 234 F  
   Component: IMMO AUZ9Z0T9970259 D77
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00050
1 Fault Found:
01176 - Unknown Error Code
            07-00 - Unknown Error Elaboration

Address 35     -------------------------------------------------------
   Controller: 8LO 862 257 A  
   Component: ZV-Pumpe, DWA          
   Coding: 01416
   Shop #: WSC 06325
No fault code found.

End   -------------------------------------------------------

Hello,

I might be able to help you. What happened that stopped the key working in the first place?

Did you manage to retrieve your SKC?

-Carl.

hi carl

not sure what happened went out to the car in the morning  and it wont start well start for the 3 sec and yes i have the skc code

It could be either the transponder chip in the key, or the pickup coil in the steering column. You need to work out which it is first.

(not sure how to do this!)

I managed to recode a new transponder and remote, but I'm still not entirely sure how I did it in the end.

From Ross Tech
"
Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty
Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty
Immobilizer Transponder in Key faulty OR incorrect Transponder in Key

When found in Audi A3 (8L), Audi A4 (8D), Audi A6 (4B) or Audi A8 (4D), check Wiring from Immobilizer Control Module to Immobilizer Reader Coil. A known issue would be the Length of the Wiring, an optimized Replacement Part may be available (8D0-972-275).
"

When I tried using the vag com procedure I couldn't get it to learn the new transponder but in the end it worked using Vag + can + K commander 2.5. I'll see if I can dig out the links I used.

Your 97 is probabaly immo2? Mine is immo3 so not directly comparable (also a LEON, not A4).

-C


 

thanks carl i  will have a look for more info about Immobilizer Reader Coil

i was told that i have immo 1 box not sure, the guy i bought the key from told me that audi changed mid year from a t5 transponder to a t6 so i could have the wrong transponder will have to order a t5 key to check ,he told me he doesnt know how i would be able to check ,i have tried vag com and the key does match and tried in vag tacho, what i cant figure is why my old key wont work how would the chip just break

but will look into the coil just need to find out where it is

cheers paul

The transponder in the key is a tiny coil encapsulated in a glass bead. It can fail.

You can't match second hand transponders to a different ECU. You can buy transponders new for a few quid from http://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/keys_list.php?cat=104&menu=1 but you'll need to research which is the correct one. You've already extracted the immo details using vagcom so you should be able to find out which is the appropriate one.

Here is a link to the procedure using vag commander http://www.vag-info.com/USER_MANUAL_VAG_K%2BCAN_2_6.pdf  You want section 3.5.9.1 I think.

The other option is always to disable the immobiliser but that just as complicated unless you have access to electronic rework kit.

thanks carl

i have tried to find out what the transponder is but im just not finding the info

i ordered this key with the t6 ,but it seems it could be the t5

http://www.carkeyhelp.co.uk/products/Audi-A4-transponder-key-HU66AT.html

but i will look at the immo coil in the morning i hope its that i have had some water leaking in to the car in the back driver side can that cause the immo to stop,have check the drains in the car and it is clean thanks for the vag commander link but i dont think my cables would work i will try, thanks for all the info it gives me alot to do tomorrow

Just an odd question, Why wouldn't you look into defeating the Immo?

There are ALOT of people here in the forums that would be able to assist you, and or do it our selves.